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BMW 5-Series Lease Questions

2604 messages,  Last post on Dec 04, 2009 at 7:18 AM

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Clueless by cancer
Sep 22, 2009 (1:52 pm)
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I am looking for a 535xi with cold weather package only. The dealer in Pittsburgh gave me the following figures on a 10,000K miles 36month lease;
 
MSRP: 54,500
Negotiated Price: 52,000
MF: 0.00180
Residual: 61%
1500 initial payment includes first month payment, acquisition fee, document, title etc.
Monthly payment of 725.
 
To me this sounds like a BAD deal. I have excellent credit. Any input will be appreciated.
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Re: Clueless [cancer] by jeffal
Sep 22, 2009 (2:15 pm)
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Replying to: cancer (Sep 22, 2009 1:52 pm)

Does the 725 monthly include tax?
 
They only gave you $2,500 below MSRP and they bumped the MF. The current MF for that car is .00165 but dealers are allowed to bump it up for extra profit. The residual is correct.
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Re: Clueless [cancer] by acurious
Sep 22, 2009 (2:34 pm)
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Replying to: cancer (Sep 22, 2009 1:52 pm)

It does sound like a bad deal. The MF seems too high, Clueless. Right now, dealers should be biting at $500 over invoice, with a MF of .00155 to .00165. I just leased in late Aug my 535i with M Sport Package in San Jose, CA. MF was .00175 but got price down to $500 over invoice. My residual was 58%. Yours is better. I would work on the Invoice and MF. I recently learned that if you tell them you have one or two dealers who are willing to do "xyz" that may force a better deal. Good luck.
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Re: Clueless [jeffal] by cancer
Sep 22, 2009 (5:10 pm)
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Replying to: jeffal (Sep 22, 2009 2:15 pm)

I think it includes tax, but not 100% sure.
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Re: Clueless [acurious] by cancer
Sep 22, 2009 (5:12 pm)
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Replying to: acurious (Sep 22, 2009 2:34 pm)

Thank you friends. I plan to go back on this weekend. Your input/figures will definitely be very helpful.
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Re: BMW Select Program [gregoryx] by tambaydriver
Sep 22, 2009 (6:31 pm)
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Replying to: gregoryx (Sep 15, 2009 5:28 pm)

Gregoryx,
 
I was told of this program too and the site below has a good thread concerning the topic:
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=298834
 
It appears there are several questions to get answered before I can make a good value determination but the program seems to carry a hefty risk at the back end.
 
Carman, are you familiar with the BMW Select Program?
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2010 528 x drive by jake508
Sep 24, 2009 (9:31 pm)
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all
wow what a great forum! I learned a bunch from you guys. Here's my deal 2010 528xi $49.4 msrp vp package split rear seat $589 month 36/12k $6790 driveoff with $4800 in msd's only 7 that count -00049 mf wow that helps 6.25% mass tax
 
I found that BMW stores in my market (Boston) inflate the MF 20-30 points that's $20 $25 a month more (shame shame) on them TIP ask for them to conferm the base MF rate aka lease loan rate they'll hide it if they can they keep 70cents on the dollor over the base rate (sneaky)
 
it's not much but hey it's my money just be upfront about it
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Re: BMW Select Program [tambaydriver] by gregoryx
Sep 26, 2009 (7:15 am)
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Replying to: tambaydriver (Sep 22, 2009 6:31 pm)

thanks . . . the bimmerfest thread was great. good looking out.
 
Carman, or anyone else in the community - are there any other insights that you have on the select program? it does have a ballon payment on the backend. because i live in ohio, i'm guaranteed 2.9% interest if i choose to finance the ballon payment for another 1-2 years OR i can pay it off OR i can take the residual value and roll into a new vehicle at the time.
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Re: BMW Select Program [gregoryx] by kyfdx HOST
Sep 26, 2009 (7:23 am)
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Replying to: gregoryx (Sep 26, 2009 7:15 am)

The Select program is just an extended loan...
 
The drawback in comparison with a lease, is you don't have the option to turn it in at the end of the term.... You have to refinance the balloon, or sell the car, and repay the balance...
 
Generally, they created the program as an alternative to leases for full-tax states like Illinois and Texas. It preserves the trade-in tax credit for those states, by putting the car in the name of the buyer, rather than a leasing company.
 
It is rarely used outside of the states with those taxing policies..
 
There is nothing inherently wrong with it... Though, many people have the opinion that if you can't afford to pay for a car with a 60-month loan, then it is too expensive for your budget.
 
regards,
kyfdx
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Re: BMWFS leases [drewzie] by hcb210
Sep 26, 2009 (2:59 pm)
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Replying to: drewzie (Sep 19, 2009 6:00 pm)

here is an offer for 528 xi 52,370 MSRP
2300 at sign in
4000 trade
36/ 15K/year /574 (inc. tax)
58% residual

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