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BMW 5-Series Lease Questions

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Re: BMW Lease Question [whocares5] by kyfdx HOST
Jun 20, 2009 (5:15 am)
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Replying to: whocares5 (Jun 19, 2009 7:50 pm)

That won't save you any depreciation.. The buyout of the car won't be based on it's market value.. The payoff will be determined by your lease agreement... much like a normal loan..
 
You will be out the acquisition fee that you paid for the lease, though.. ($725-$925).
 
regards,
kyfdx
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Re: BMW Lease Question [kyfdx] by whocares5
Jun 20, 2009 (6:45 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Jun 20, 2009 5:15 am)

Thx Kyfdx! I appreciate your response and now I have couple of more questions. The basis scenario is that I am in market for a new car as my old lease is expiring. There is a good chance that I may have to leave country for work in a year. So I am leaning towards financing the car but payment will be high on that. As such, I thought of leasing a car for a year and buyout the car next year and sell it off. This way I can save some money in next year. The hope is that since car depreciates so much in year one, financing will cost me more money if I sell if after one year. So my question is how is payoff price determined in a lease? And is it advisable to follow the approach listed above. Any response will be appreciated. Thx.
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Re: BMW Lease Question [whocares5] by kyfdx HOST
Jun 20, 2009 (6:54 am)
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Replying to: whocares5 (Jun 20, 2009 6:45 am)

The payoff on a lease is determined just like a car loan..
 
You pay $45K... At the end of three years, the car is worth $25K.. The car payoff declines pretty much linearly between those two numbers, over the term of the lease. (A purchase payoff declines slower than that, as more interest is charged when the balance is higher.. Finance charges on a lease are averaged over the entire lease term).
 
Since the actual depreciation will likely be faster than that, you'll take the same loss when you try to re-sell the car that you would take in a purchase, anyway..
 
I'm not sure what car you have now, but you might see if you can extend the lease for one year. That would surely be cheaper than any of the scenarios you are comtemplating. If you have a BMW, they generally won't do that, unless you have another BMW on order.
 
regards,
kyfdx
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Re: BMW Lease Question [whocares5] by jmcbmw
Jun 20, 2009 (7:07 am)
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Replying to: whocares5 (Jun 20, 2009 6:45 am)

You may also try taking over someone's lease with only a year left on it www.swapalease.com or leasetrader.com.
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Re: BMW Lease Question [kyfdx] by whocares5
Jun 20, 2009 (7:34 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Jun 20, 2009 6:54 am)

Thx. This was helpful! Has anyone sold a lease on swapalease.com or leasetrader.com? I am wondering if that is a feasible consideration. Do these websites work? How much do the seller stand to lose in such situations?
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Re: BMW Lease Question [whocares5] by kyfdx HOST
Jun 20, 2009 (10:02 am)
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Replying to: whocares5 (Jun 20, 2009 7:34 am)

The key is to negotiate an outstanding deal on your lease... If your payment is a good deal for someone else, then it's more likely to get assumed... If not, then you can expect to pony up some cash for an incentive..
 
I like the idea of assuming a lease, yourself... That way, your costs are fixed, and you don't have to worry about whether you are going to get rid of the car on time, or for how much...
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2010 535i xdrive lease by m35luvr
Jun 20, 2009 (2:42 pm)
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Ok folks just got home from the dealership and want to know if this is the deal I should sign?
 
2010 535i xdrive
Premium pkg
Sports pkg
Satellite Radio w 1 year membership
Value package
Navigation
 
36 mos lease with 20K miles per year.
I offered 2500 down as cap reduction
List price of car is 58,870 which includes 825 destination
Monthly payment with taxes came to $825/month
Due at signing total was $2500 down plus first months payment and security deposit of 500.
 
Dealer was using 58% residual and .00175 lease factor. Sale price after my cap reduction was 55,080.
 
Tell me what you think.
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BMW offering Factory-to-dealer $5000? by teck2u2
Jun 20, 2009 (6:42 pm)
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BMW offering Factory-to-dealer $5000?BMW offering Factory-to-dealer $5000?Hi All - I was wondering if someone can confirm whether or not it's true that BMW is offering dealers $5000 [factory-to-dealer] incentive for June?
 
Is this true and if so where do I find more resource on this so I can take advantage of it
 
Please see my source below: link title

 
"BMW is providing dealers with $5000 factory-to-dealer cash deals on all 5 Series and M5 models that will allow dealers to discount prices heavily on those models — if they choose to do so"
 
Thanks in advance for your response.
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Re: BMW offering Factory-to-dealer $5000? [teck2u2] by blckislandguy
Jun 20, 2009 (7:18 pm)
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Replying to: teck2u2 (Jun 20, 2009 6:42 pm)

You guys are pretty sharp with these numbers and the accompanying jargon (e.g, what is MACO?). But if you guys put just half as much effort into actually BUYING a Bimmer, especially one a couple to three years old with the 50% depreciation already taken, you'd me thousands of dollars ahead.
 
The Mercedes dealer-principal in Maine (there is only MB dealer for the entire state) complained to me years ago that he couldn't make any money. His discount from MSRP was a measley 6% or so and after you discounted the car, you were in the hole. The only way to make money was on leasing. Leasing he continued was a source of easy money with the various fees up front and at the back end plus it was a source of good used cars as the lessors re-upped because they never had any equity. But, he continued, the damn Maineiacs were too contrary to lease and just paid cash for their MB!
 
Show me a guy jumping from one lease to another, and I'll show you a guy who is way over his head and throwing money away. Dealers love you guys.
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Re: BMW Lease Question [whocares5] by cablue
Jun 20, 2009 (10:42 pm)
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Replying to: whocares5 (Jun 20, 2009 7:34 am)

I've taken over someone's lease on a BMW 550 through leasetrader.com, and I'm now in the process of having someone take over my lease of an '08 535. I think it's been a great experience. I needed a car for just a year before planning a european delivery, so assuming someone else's lease worked out great. The prior owner gave a great incentive which made the car a bargain. Loved the car. We lived about 800 miles apart, so I had an independent mechanic check it out, which cost some money, then flew down and drove the car home. Now my 535 is in the process of being assumed. I need a bigger vehicle at this time, so I in turn am giving an incentive to make it a bargain for someone else. I think it's also a great way to check out different cars if you're into that -- which I am!

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