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Good deal..or NOT?! by claire_m
Dec 30, 2007 (5:36 pm)
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Hi:
 
I'm new to the board and want to buy a 528i 2008 asap! The best (I think) deal I have so far for a 528i w/ premium package:
24 month lease
12Kmiles/yr
5K down
$468 (including tax)/month
 
Any thoughts feedback would be greatly appreciated. THANKS in advance
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Re: Good deal..or NOT?! [claire_m] by dark_katana
Dec 30, 2007 (6:15 pm)
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Replying to: claire_m (Dec 30, 2007 5:36 pm)

Hi yourself
 
I'll do a quick back of the envelope for you and show you how this works. Let's leave taxes, tag, bank fee and security deposit out of if for simplicity
    
528i Base Model Invoice--$40,755, MSRP--$44,300
Premium Package Invoice-- $2,095 MSRP-- $2,300
Destination and Handling $775
Total Invoice--$43,600
Total MSRP--$47,375
$5,000 down (Subtract from MSRP)
December lease rate for 528i--24 months/12000k-- Residual 75% of MSRP – .00225 Base Rate Money Factor
 
Buying the car at MSRP gets you a monthly payment calculated as depreciation fee of ($42,375 - $35,531)/24=$285.16 plus
Finance fee of ($42,375 + $35,531) x .00225 = $175.29
 
Total payment of $460.45
 
Unless you live in a very high sales tax state (like me) even factoring in the bank fee and the tax, it sounds like you're getting the car pretty close to MSRP if you only have the premium package as an option. In addition, there is a $1000 cash incentive from BMW to the dealer on the 5 series right now that seems to have gone straight into the dealer's pocket with no credit to you.
 
Try negotiating the purchase price from invoice not MSRP and then apply the lease rate. My target is to get the dealer down to invoice plus 2%--you may not get there, but that's the target to shoot for.
 
It's also always easier to calculate your deal if you pay the tax, tag and bank fee upfront. You shouldn't be rolling the tax into the lease payment anyway since it doesn't make much sense to finance a tax payment.
 
Not to pressure you, but the BMW December lease rate I quoted above is only good through 01/02/2008, so you need to lock in this week.
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Re: Here's how I did [dark_katana] by pagelmunda
Dec 31, 2007 (3:42 am)
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Replying to: dark_katana (Dec 30, 2007 4:43 pm)

Thanks much dark katana. Is there anyone in particular at the dealership you spoke with? Best wishes for the new year.
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Re: Here's how I did [pagelmunda] by dark_katana
Dec 31, 2007 (7:39 am)
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Replying to: pagelmunda (Dec 31, 2007 3:42 am)

Rules say I can't provide salesperson names pagelmunda. That being said, I'm reminded of that old song--"Hey Hey Paula." Also, for some reason, I'm thinking of the current president of Mexico, I think his last name is Calderon.
 
It sure would be nice if you could PM people here at car space, like on other forums.
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Re: Good deal..or NOT?! [dark_katana] by claire_m
Dec 31, 2007 (8:40 am)
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Replying to: dark_katana (Dec 30, 2007 6:15 pm)

ooh, THANKS for doing the math. I'm in Los Angeles, CA (tax is 8.25). I was confused because he said that the residual was 79% and MF was .0024...is this even possible? (i would be a new bmw leasee, not qualify for loyalt prog). I was asking for monthly to be $420/month...which would put it a healthy +5% over invoice, a fair offer. Also, I didn't want premium package, just leather and Xenon headlights and he said BMW doesn't offer cars w/out packages...?! He wouldn't budge (didn't have to) because they had sold out of all inventory of 528i because of the $1k incentive...thanks to you, I'm definitely going to check around. Happy New Year!
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Re: Good deal..or NOT?! [claire_m] by dark_katana
Dec 31, 2007 (8:52 am)
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Replying to: claire_m (Dec 31, 2007 8:40 am)

BMWFS is certainly not offering 79% residuals and a regular bank has no incentive to subsidize leases so aggressively. In any event, there's no way that the payment the dealer quoted would equate with a 79% residual with $5000 down and the additional $1000 incentive from BMW even including the taxes.
 
Keep looking. Any dealer can order the car for you from Germany and you can still lock the rate if you sign before 01/02/08. You might lose the $1000 incentive from BMW (that only applies to cars in current inventory), but you can make that up by some hard bargaining.
 
Good luck.
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Re: Here's how I did [dark_katana] by kyfdx HOST
Dec 31, 2007 (9:19 am)
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Replying to: dark_katana (Dec 31, 2007 7:39 am)

Every member has a CarSpace.com e-mail account. Their e-mail address is always membernameCarSpace.com
 
You can access your own e-mail account via the mailbox tab at the top right of the page.
 
regards,
kyfdx
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Re: Here's how I did [kyfdx] by masterfung
Dec 31, 2007 (8:07 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Dec 31, 2007 9:19 am)

Can we get the BMW MF and residuals for Jan on 535xi? 15 miles and 36 months. Thank you!
 
  Looking to buy in Colorado.
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Re: Here's how I did [masterfung] by phoenixaz
Jan 01, 2008 (10:24 am)
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Replying to: masterfung (Dec 31, 2007 8:07 pm)

For the veterans....do the residuals decrease and money factors typically increase after January 2nd? I'm thinking about ordering me 535i tomorrow (jan 2) before the rates change. Are the current rates pretty good or do you expect them to take a turn for the better in Jan? Thanks
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Re: Here's how I did [phoenixaz] by carnaught
Jan 01, 2008 (11:10 am)
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Replying to: phoenixaz (Jan 01, 2008 10:24 am)

They told me when I ordered that the rate at the time I order will hold unless the rate decreases when I take delivery in which case I would get the lower rate. Yours should be the same.

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