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Re: BMW 335i lease quote [new2beemer] by Car_man HOST
Oct 29, 2006 (4:26 am)
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Replying to: new2beemer (Oct 16, 2006 1:29 pm)

Hi new2beemer. What bank is the lease that you were quoted through? It does not appear to be BMW Financial Services. BMW FS' current 36 month, 12,000 mile peer year buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2007 335i with 12,000 miles per year are .00270 and 63%, respectively. Plus BMW FS' acquisition fee is only $625, instead of the $825 that you were quoted.
 
I would be happy to share my thoughts on the selling price that you were quoted on this car if you provide me with its full MSRP. This number will show me how much of a discount you are being given on it. You also may want to stop by the following discussion to see how much other community members have paid for similar cars lately: "BMW 3-Series: Prices Paid & Buying Experience".
 
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Re: 2007 3-series coupe money factors [ubermu] by Car_man HOST
Oct 29, 2006 (4:33 am)
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Replying to: ubermu (Oct 17, 2006 11:57 am)

Hi ubermu. BMW Financial Services' current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2006 325i with 15,000 miles per year are .00225 and 61%, respectively. I believe that BMW FS charges a disposition fee of $350. I do not believe that dealers have the ability to mark-up BMW FS' disposition fee like they can mark-up its $625 acquisition fee.
 
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Re: 3 coupe #'s for ED [ahdanna] by Car_man HOST
Oct 29, 2006 (4:44 am)
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Replying to: ahdanna (Oct 26, 2006 5:00 pm)

Hey ahdanna. BMW Financial Services' current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 24 month lease of a 2007 328xi Coupe with 15,000 miles per year are .00200 and 70%, respectively. The numbers for an otherwise identical 36 month lease are .00200 and 58%. BMW Financial Services' current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 24 month lease of a 2007 335i Coupe with 15,000 miles per year are .00200 and 69%. The numbers for an otherwise identical 36 month lease are .00200 and 58%. Having said this, if you choose to get either of these cars through BMW's European Delivery program, its money factors will be different. I believe that BMW FS' money factors for leases through that program are higher, but I am not sure how much higher. Perhaps someone else out there knows.
 
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Re: Zero Down BMW Leases [mdiver65] by Car_man HOST
Oct 29, 2006 (4:46 am)
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Replying to: mdiver65 (Oct 28, 2006 4:49 pm)

Hi mdiver65. No banks actually require consumers to make down payments on leases. Consumers can and should lease any vehicle that they want without making any sort of capitalized cost reduction, aka down payment. The only reason why BMW advertises vehicles with $2,500 down payments is to make their monthly payments look more attractive to consumers who only focus on that number.
 
You never mentioned the selling price or MSRP of the car that you are interested in leasing. These are important numbers for you as a consumer to know for two reasons. First, the selling prices of leased vehicles can be negotiated, just as if you were paying cash for them. Without knowing this car's selling price in relation to its MSRP you don't know how much of a discount you are getting on it. The second reason is that one needs the selling price and MSRP, including the destination charge, of a vehicle to calculate its lease payment. I would be more than happy to give you my opinion of the lease that you saw advertised if you let me know what these numbers are.
 
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Re: 328xi lease [macar] by Car_man HOST
Oct 29, 2006 (4:56 am)
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Replying to: macar (Oct 28, 2006 5:22 pm)

Hi macar. You can lease any BMW that you want without making any sort of capitalized cost reduction. All consumers who lease BMWs through BMW FS have to pay at lease signing are their vehicle's first month's payment, a security deposit equivalent to that payment rounded up to the nearest $50 increment, a $625 acquisition fee, and any required state taxes or fees. BMW FS will waive its security deposit requirement in exchange for an increase of .00015 in the money factor that is used to calculate your vehicle's monthly payment. If you don't want to pay the acquisition fee, you can roll it into your vehicle's cap cost or pay an increase of .00035 in your vehicle's money factor to have it waived (I'd personally rather roll it into the cap cost).
 
BMW Financial Services' current 36 month buy rate lease money factor for the 2007 BMW 328xi is .00285. Make sure that you don't pay any more than that. Dealers that try to charge you a higher money factor are attempting to add hidden back-end profit to your deal.
 
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Re: Zero Down BMW Leases [Car_man] by mdiver65
Oct 29, 2006 (2:18 pm)
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Replying to: Car_man (Oct 29, 2006 4:46 am)

Hi Car Man,
 
Thanks for the reply. I was quoted $33,420 as both the MSRP AND the selling price for the 325ia (the one I'm more interested in). Definitely room for negotiation.
 
Thoughts? THANKS for all your help!
 
Mark
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link for new November BMWFS lease rates? by wrenchrad
Nov 01, 2006 (10:39 pm)
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Replying to: mdiver65 (Oct 29, 2006 2:18 pm)

CarMan: Thanks for all your previous posts educating us about leasing. I'm shopping for a new 2006 330i or 2007 328i. Heard from a dealer today that BMWFS has dropped money rates on 2006 330i to 0.00175 with residuals of 72% at 24mo and 63% at 36mo to clear them out (12K miles/yr). Extracting this information took a long time. I'm interested in comparing the new Nov. 2007 rates on a new 2007 328i, 328ci, and 335i. Is there a link somewhere where these are published with their corresponding residual values? I need only 12K per year. Thanks.
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07 328i coupe lease by sting814
Nov 02, 2006 (5:46 am)
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I was hoping to lease a coupe soon. I contacted a few dealers around Austin and they refuse to go below MSRP cause they dont have any cars in stock and theres a wait time of at least 10 weeks for the car to be delivered after order.
 
I was curious if anyone has managed to negotiate the prices down.
 
Thanks!
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Invoice cost & Nov MF rate for 2007 328xi by tennberg
Nov 02, 2006 (1:15 pm)
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Hello Car Man,
 
I am looking at leasing a 2007 328xi within the next few weeks, so I will be using the November money factor in my calculations.
 
Two questions:
 
1. Edmunds.com doesn't list the invoice price of a 2007 328xi, saying it is "N/A". Is this price available anywhere? It would certainly help in negotiating the cap cost. Also, the invoice prices for some optiosn aren't listed as well. Is there anywhere I can fill in those gaps?
 
2. What are the November money factors for the 2007 328xi, be it a 24 or 36 month lease?
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Lease payments for a 2007 335i by bidarian
Nov 02, 2006 (4:55 pm)
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I would like to lease a 2007 335i sedan with MSRP of $41,470 for 36 months at 12K miles per year. The dealer is promising that I can get the car through ED program for a capitalized cost of about $38,000 (additional 1.4% off on top of 7% ED discount). I don't want to pay any cap reduction. Can you tell me what my monthly payment and total drive-off would be for a lease through BMW Financial at the current November 2006 rates?
 
I won't order the car for several months, so I am trying to get an idea what to expect. How do the residual values and MF change as you get closer to the end of a model year? My current A4 lease expires in September 2007, but I don't think I can order a 2008 model if I am to pick up the car in Munich 6-8 weeks before that time. So I would be looking at a late 2007 model. I don't know if monthly payments become lower or higher as you approach the end of the model year. You would think that the payment goes down.
 
Thank you!

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