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There's more to it than payments by ponchers
Jul 23, 2006 (7:44 pm)
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I know there is more to consider than just monthly payments. I am looking at a 2006 325ci in Lexington, KY. I was quoated $399/mo, $2,500 at signing. The sticker price was $42,000 (I believe). This sounds good to me. But from what I'm reading here, there are some #'s missing that are important. The salesman said that at the end of the 36 mo, I could return the car and get another one, sell it or buy it and keep it. I've heard horror stories about people owing more on their leased cars at the end of the lease than they're worth (residual?). How do I keep that from happening?
 
My employer would be leasing the car for me to use. Who pays for the insurance? Can I get the insurance cheaper than my employer? Or can I insure a car that's not in my name?
 
I'm brand new to this, so please forgive my ignorance. I liked the idea that BMW has that special maintence program which will help me with everything but tires and gas (so I'm told by the salesman). He said I could buy tire and rod insurance for around $335, I think he said. I'm not sure if that was "per year" or for the life of the lease. He said that this insurance would pay for itself in one ruined tire because the tires are very expensive. Is this true? Would this insurance be a good idea?
 
As an older woman, I don't want to be "taken to the cleaners" just because I'm a girl. So I appreciate any help you could give me.
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Re: Enhanced lease program... [wco81] by Car_man HOST
Jul 26, 2006 (3:47 am)
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Replying to: wco81 (Jul 06, 2006 5:56 am)

Wco81, BMW Financial Services charges a security deposit that is equivalent to vehicles' monthly payments rounded up to the nearest $50 increment. Be careful when calculating the cost of a European Delivery lease. I believe that BMW Financial Services uses different money factors for vehicles that are delivered through its European Delivery program rather than picked up normally.
 
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Re: new lease program [03accordman] by Car_man HOST
Jul 26, 2006 (3:54 am)
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Replying to: 03accordman (Jul 06, 2006 8:06 pm)

You're welcome, 03accordman. Thanks for the additional information. So you are getting this car for $700 over dealer invoice. That is a fair price. Using the prices that you mentioned in your post, an MSRP of $40,148 and a selling price of $39,500, I estimate that the zero down, pre-tax monthly payment for a 36 month lease of a 2006 BMW 330i through BMW Financial Services with 15,000 miles per year should be around $532. If you were to make 7 additional security deposits, this car's money factor would drop by .00049 and the payment for an otherwise identical lease would fall to around $500.
 
It is difficult to say what BMW's future lease program will be like on this car. I am sure that dealers will probably begin to discount 2006 models more once the 2007 3-Series is available and BMW may even introduce dealer cash to help dealers unload their leftover models, but this does not necessarily mean that this car's lease program will be better. That late in the model year it is entirely possible that its lease program will actually be worse. Only time will tell for certain what will happen.
 
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Re: MF decreased since I ordered my car [richlux] by Car_man HOST
Jul 26, 2006 (3:55 am)
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Replying to: richlux (Jul 06, 2006 8:44 pm)

Yes, Rich, even though you locked in the money factor on your car when you ordered it you should be able to take advantage of BMW's new, improved lease program for it. Just make sure to talk to your dealer about it because they may not automatically lower your vehicle's lease payment.
 
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Re: July Residuals & Money Factors [brianm4] by Car_man HOST
Jul 26, 2006 (3:57 am)
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Replying to: brianm4 (Jul 07, 2006 7:41 am)

Hi brianm4. The money factor that you were quoted is way too high. BMW Financial Services' current buy rate lease money factor for a lease of a 2005 BMW 325Ci for up to 42 months is only .00100 for consumers who pay a security deposit and acquisition fee at lease signing. Make sure to insist that the dealer that you get your car from uses the buy rate money factor to calculate its monthly payment.
 
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Re: new rates for July [shehzy] by Car_man HOST
Jul 26, 2006 (4:00 am)
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Replying to: shehzy (Jul 07, 2006 5:18 pm)

Here's the information that you are looking for, shehzy. BMW Financial Services' current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2006 325xi with 12,000 miles per year are .00250 and 63%, respectively. The numbers for an otherwise identical lease of a 2006 330xi are .00175 and 63%. To the best of my knowledge the 2007 3-Series is not available yet and BMW has not published a lease program for it.
 
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Re: 330xi [inguy] by Car_man HOST
Jul 26, 2006 (4:07 am)
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Replying to: inguy (Jul 10, 2006 1:44 pm)

Welcome inguy. Since you are new to the world of leasing, you definitely should check out the following informative articles that are available here at Edmunds.com prior to visiting any dealers: 10 Steps to Leasing a New Car and Calculate Your Own Lease Payment.
 
Let me begin by saying that the money factor that you were quoted for this car is too high. BMW Financial Services' current buy rate lease money factor for a 36 month lease of a 2006 BMW 330xi is only .00175 for consumers who pay a security deposit and acquisition fee at lease signing (or have the acquisition fee added into their car's capitalized cost).
 
The selling price that you were quoted for this car appears to be around $1,500 over dealer invoice, perhaps a little more. Have you tried shopping around at all. There is some room there so it probably wouldn't hurt to see if you can get this car from a different local dealer for less. There's no guarantee that you will be able to, but since you have $1,500 to play with it wouldn't hurt to try. Make sure to stop by the following discussion to see how much other community members have paid for similar cars lately: "BMW 3-Series: Prices Paid & Buying Experience".
 
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Re: New 330i [beamerlover] by Car_man HOST
Jul 26, 2006 (4:11 am)
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Replying to: beamerlover (Jul 13, 2006 9:52 am)

Geetings beamerlover. That's a pretty sweet car for someone who's only 22. I'm jealous . Since you are new to the world of leasing, you definitely should check out the following informative articles that are available here at Edmunds.com prior to visiting any dealers: 10 Steps to Leasing a New Car and Calculate Your Own Lease Payment.
 
The money factor that you were quoted for this car is right in line with BMW Financial Services' current buy rate for it. This is a good sign because it means that the dealer that you are working with is being straightforward with you and not trying to mark your car's money factor up to add additional hidden back-end profit to your deal.
 
The other main profit center for dealers on leases is vehicle's selling prices. In your post you mentioned this car's MSRP and dealer invoice price, but never its actual selling price. This is an important number for you as a consumer to know. It shows you how much of a discount you are being given and it enables you, in conjunction with this car's lease program, to calculate what its lease payment should be. Make sure to find it out before finalizing your deal.
 
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Current rates for 330i lease by cbp1
Jul 26, 2006 (5:42 am)
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What is the current money factor and residual for a 2006 330i? My car is supposed to be in this weekend or early next week -- just want to make sure my salesman is being up front with me. Thanks for the info.
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Re: Lease a 2006 or 2007? [newcar45] by Car_man HOST
Jul 27, 2006 (2:32 am)
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Replying to: newcar45 (Jul 15, 2006 6:43 pm)

Hi newcar45. I'm not surprised that the salespeople who you have spoken with are reluctant to provide you with any detailed information about leasing. From their perspective, the less you know the more likely it is that they are going to make money off of you. Plus as you mentioned they don't want you to take their offer and shop it all over town. It is difficult to say what manufacturers will do with their future lease programs. Assuming that BMW does not introduce some sort of year-end dealer cash on the 3-Series then yes there is a chance that any additional savings that you are able to negotiate by waiting will be negated by the natural drop in your vehicle's residual values. It is difficult to say whether BMW will feel the need to enhance this car's money factors or introduce dealer cash on it to help dealers unload their remaining inventory. If It does, then the deals may actually get better. Only time will tell what will happen for certain.
 
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