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Prices Paid: Buying & Leasing Experiences BMW 3-Series Lease Questions
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Replying to: rjg001 (Jul 07, 2009 2:32 pm) |
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Replying to: ctm1 (Jul 29, 2009 2:16 pm) my cap cost is nearly 5k more than yours but when money down is factored in, i pay 5 dollars more a month than you. then add the difference in allowable mileage which is approx 25 dollars. so my payment with all things being equal would be 30 dollars a month more than yours despite my cap cost being 5k higher. rule of thumb for every 1000 dollars negotiated it's about a 30 to 40 dollars a month difference in the lease depending on money factor and residual. so in my opinion you're paying over 100-120 more than you should be. when i see 38k for cap cost i'm thinking high 400s for your payment considering 15k a year.. this was my deal at mckenna in oc. msrp was 48.3 cap cost 43.4 drive off 1500-they gave me 1000 cash monthly payment 580 residual 61 percent 36 month 36k alpine white with coral red interior, dark burl walnut. sport, premium, cold weather, navi, sat radio, and steptronic |
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2 questions: 1) Am I getting a good price on the vehicle? 2) Am I getting a good lease? New 2009 BMW 3-SERIES 0946 2dr Conv 335i Includes: Metallic paint; Nav system; Premium Package; Sport Package; STEPTRONIC; Cold Weather Package; Comfort Access; iPod/USB; Sport Steering Wheel; Edmunds says TMV is $57,968 tho ignores paint at $500 cost to dealer. Cars.com target price is $58,065. I'm having the alarm installed which dealer wants $895 for. I've got dealer to $58,736.68. See lease details below. Looks like dealer is using .00220 for the MF (marked up from .00180). Lease info: ---------------- State: WA County: KING Lease Term: 36 Total Payment: 920.65 Out of Pocket: 4,270.90 MSRP: 60,150.00 Residual: 34,887.00 Mileage: 12,000 Federal Consumer Leasing Act Disclosures (REG-M) Amount due at lease signing (itemized below): 4,270.90 Total of Payments: 35,543.65 Customer State: Washington Customer County: KING Itemization of Payment Agreed Value: 58,736.68 a) Gross Capital Cost 58,736.68 b) Capital Cost Reduction -1,000.00 c) Adjusted Capital Cost 57,736.68 d) Residual 34,887.00 e) Depreciation Charge 22,849.68 f) Rent Charge 7,335.60 g) Total of base MP 30,185.28 h) Lease Term 36 i) Base MP 838.48 j) Monthly Tax 82.17 k) Personal Prop Tax 0.00 l) Excise Tax 0.00 m) Other Amounts 0.00 n) Total MP 920.65 Itemization of Gross Capital Cost a) Agreed Value: 58,736.68 b) AcquisitionFee 0.00 c) GAP Insurance 0.00 d) Document Fee 0.00 e) Warranty 0.00 f) Upfront Sales Tax 0.00 g) Service Tax 0.00 h) Cash Down Tax 0.00 i) Trade In Tax 0.00 j) Finance Tax 0.00 k) Tire Tax 0.00 l) Lic., Insp., Title, Reg. Fees 0.00 m) Other Fees 0.00 n) Total Capital Cost 58,736.68 Itemization of Amount Due at Signing a) Total Capital Cost Reduction 1,000.00 -Cap Reduction (Cash) 0.00 -Rebates 1,000.00 -Trade-In 0.00 b) Tax on Capital Cost Red. 98.00 c) First Monthly Payment 920.65 d) Last Monthly Payment(s) 0.00 e) Refundable Security Deposit 950.00 f) Acquisition Fee 925.00 g) Gap Insurance 0.00 h) Documentation Fee 0.00 i) Monthly Tax (Upfront) 0.00 j) Upfront Tax (not in Capital Cost) 0.00 k) Service Tax (not in Capital Cost) 0.00 l) Tire Tax (not in Capital Cost) 0.00 m) Lic., Insp., Title, Reg. Fees 227.25 n) Other Fees 150.00 o) Total Due at Signing 4,270.90 How the Amount Due at Signing will be Paid a) Net Trade-In Value 0.00 b) Rebates/Credits 1,000.00 c) Amount Paid in Cash 3,270.90 d) Total Due at Signing 4,270.90 Mileage Allowance The monthly payment and residual for this lease has been calculated using the following mileage allowance. You are allowed to drive 12,000 per year, 1,000 miles per month. If you exceed the mileage allowance for the lease term and do not purchase the Vehicle, you will pay 0.20 for each excess mile.
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Replying to: ldm616 (Jul 31, 2009 3:02 pm)
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Replying to: crocodiletears (Jul 31, 2009 10:14 pm)
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I'm looking for 2009 BMW 328i Coupe in California and get really weird lease quotes from dealers. I want to try to calculate my monthly payment by myself. Does anyone know the Money Factor and Residual Value in August for 36 month lease and 12K miles per year? Or could you help to calculate: MSRP: 43,000 Term: 36 month Miles per Year: 12,000 Down Payment: $2,000 Thanks in advance.
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Replying to: crocodiletears (Jul 14, 2009 7:03 am) Car_man Host Prices Paid: Buying & Leasing Experiences Forum |
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Replying to: vz09 (Jul 14, 2009 5:09 pm) The 54% residual value that you were quoted actually looks a little high to me. BMW's resids on M3s are pretty bad right now. Car_man Host Prices Paid: Buying & Leasing Experiences Forum |
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Replying to: mlong9876 (Jul 17, 2009 7:54 am) Let's work up a couple of sample lease payments on this car for you using the latest program info that I've seen. According to my calculations, if you were to lease a 2009 BMW 328xi Coupe that has an MSRP of $43,900 and a selling price of $39,965 ($500 over invoice minus the loyalty cash) through BMW Financial Services right now for 36 months with 15,000 miles per year, your zero down, pre-tax monthly payment would be around $596. The payment for an otherwise identical 24 month lease would be around $622. Normally lessees do not receive any sort of refund for unused miles. Car_man Host Prices Paid: Buying & Leasing Experiences Forum
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