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BMW inception fees / custom ordering by joesao
Jan 05, 2009 (7:17 am)
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I've been going through some dealers to get quotes on new 328i's (2009) lease and they always want to stuff you with a ~$1,500 inception fee even if you tell them you want to put $0 down. When asked what are those fees they all reply, "You know, first month's payment, tag, title, taxes."
 
But it turns out they're probably making money on those inception fees.
 
What's legitimate to have in those fees?
- I'm adding the $825 "destination charge" to the invoice cost of the car
- One of the dealers had a $950 "bank fee" inside that inception fee -- what a scam! (Or is this legit?)
 
I also learned that if you currently lease a BMW, you can order your custom car from the dealer at no additional cost (it makes no difference to them -- it's just one fewer vehicle from their allocation), and BMWfs will extend your current lease at your current payment for up to 6 months -- pretty sweet.
 
Also, if anybody could help with Jan '09 money factors on a 2009 328i, leased for 36 months with 10k miles, I would appreciate it.
 
Thanks a lot!
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Re: [armenh] by tennis_rus
Jan 05, 2009 (6:55 pm)
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Replying to: armenh (Jan 04, 2009 5:56 pm)

hi, i ordered my car in mid december, takes 4-6 weeks...all my specs.... they dont charge extra... 3k included first month payment, 100$ doc fee and refundable 500$ sec. deposit.... so really 2k down... also in my state MD, i must pay taxes upfront on the whole car , that kinda sucks so around 2k for taxes extra, which is law... most states it will be around $40 months extra.... for me it was important to have my payment around $450 a month for 40k car, with 3k down + taxes seemed like a good deal, now I can see some people can negotiated $500 over invoice but in the end the monthly payment comes up about the same with the 3k down....also remember my total drive off is $5200...... 15k miles 36 month so leasing this car is not cheap...if u were to buy similar car it would be $12k down and 450 a month + tax ..............
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Re:Re: 2009 328i sports wagon [bcampbell001] by Car_man HOST
Jan 06, 2009 (2:52 am)
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Replying to: bcampbell001 (Dec 17, 2008 8:10 pm)

You're very welcome, Brian.
 
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Re: leasing 2009 328i sedan [hana80] by Car_man HOST
Jan 06, 2009 (2:56 am)
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Replying to: hana80 (Dec 17, 2008 11:41 pm)

Welcome hana80. Since you are new to the world of leasing, you definitely should check out the following informative articles that are available here at Edmunds.com prior to visiting any dealers: 10 Steps to Leasing a New Car and Calculate Your Own Lease Payment.
 
I see that the dealer quoted you a payment that includes a large down payment. I always advise consumers not to make large down payments when leasing. Those who make them risk losing them if their vehicle is totaled in an accident or stolen and never recovered. Even though it means that your monthly payment will be slightly higher, you would be much better off going with a zero down lease.
 
It is difficult for me to know what a good monthly payment would be for this car without knowing what its MSRP is. You don't even need the dealer to get this information. It is available right here at Edmunds.com over in the New Vehicle Pricing section. While you are there, grab the dealer invoice price of the car that you want as well. Let me know what both of these numbers are and I will calculate a sample lease payment on the exact car that you want for you.
 
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Re: 2009 328i Wagon [plasmator] by Car_man HOST
Jan 06, 2009 (3:02 am)
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Replying to: plasmator (Dec 18, 2008 7:35 pm)

Greetings plasmator. BMW just introduced its new January lease program a couple of days ago. Through March 2nd, BMW Financial Services' buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2009 328i Wagon with 10,000 miles per year are .00215 and 58%, respectively. BMW is not currently providing any cash incentives on this model.
 
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Re: Money factors on 2008/9 328i/335i [joesao] by Car_man HOST
Jan 06, 2009 (3:06 am)
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Replying to: joesao (Dec 23, 2008 8:32 am)

I'm glad that you've found the information in this discussion so helpful, joesao. BMW just introduced its new January lease program a couple of days ago. Here's the latest information in case you are still interested.
 
BMW Financial Services' current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2009 328i with 10,000 miles per year are .00175 and 60%.
 
The numbers for an otherwise identical lease of a 2008 328i are .00075 and 57%.
 
The numbers for an otherwise identical lease of a 2008 335i are .00085 and 57%.
 
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Re: BMW inception fees / custom ordering [joesao] by Car_man HOST
Jan 06, 2009 (3:16 am)
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Replying to: joesao (Jan 05, 2009 7:17 am)

Hey joesao. BMW Financial Services charges a $725 acquisition fee on every vehicle that it leases. You will not be able to get out of paying this charge. You can either pay it at lease signing or add it to your car's capitalized cost to bake it into your monthly payment. Keep an eye out for dealers trying to mark this fee up. BMW dealers are notorious for trying to slip a couple hundred dollars extra in profit into this charge.
 
Here's the latest program info for you. BMW Financial Services' current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2009 328i with 10,000 miles per year are .00175 and 60%, respectively.
 
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Re: BMW inception fees / custom ordering [Car_man] by amylock
Jan 07, 2009 (10:26 am)
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Replying to: Car_man (Jan 06, 2009 3:16 am)

Hi! does anyone know what the lease Money Factors and Residuals are for the 2009 335i for 36 months and 15,000 per year? I keep getting jerked around at the dealerships - I currently have a 2006 lease 330i and I am not getting any love on the loylaty stuff either.
 
Many thanks!
 
Amy
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by byrne222
Jan 07, 2009 (11:06 am)
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Car_man,
While you are researching the MF's for 2009, can you provide the 36 month, 15k miles/year MF and residuals for:
2009 328 XDrive Sedan
2009 335 XDrive Sedan
 
also if handy;
2008 328 Xi Sedan
2008 335 XI Sedan
 
Thanks for the assist.
- Max
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328i coupe lease quote by skinso
Jan 07, 2009 (12:34 pm)
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Hi everyone, i got a quote yesterday for a 2009 328i coupe, with Preimum, Sport, Cold Weather, Navigation, and I-pod Adapter with a MSRP $46,300 and a sale price of $44,500, with $2000 drive off, and $615/month plus tax for 36months and 10k miles per year. the salesman told me that the residual value is 61%, i did not get the money factor, i m just wondering if this deal is reasonable or not?

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