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Re: lease money factor [k98rs01] by richz
Jun 10, 2008 (4:31 am)
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Replying to: k98rs01 (Jun 09, 2008 9:43 pm)

Please go here for all June money factor/residual rates for all BMWs.
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Re: Leasing a new 328i beamer [shabbirn] by ccdbb
Jun 12, 2008 (5:52 pm)
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Replying to: shabbirn (Jun 08, 2008 11:57 pm)

bmw offers free maintainess for the term of lease. Even better (in terms of convenience, might be for the car itself), only one maintainess visit per year. My X3 is up to term next week. Over the 36 mo lease, I only brought the car back twice for regular maintainess visits.
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Some First Offers - 328i Coupe by davidd3
Jun 13, 2008 (7:18 pm)
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I got a couple of initial quotes from dealers in the metro NY area.
 
BMWFS leasing program for this car is what it is, which is to say not very aggressive at this time. 3 years. 15,000 miles per year. Money factor .00185. Residual value 55%. Bank fee $625. Both dealers quoted without marking up the money factor or bank fee.
 
So the only things that are going to matter here are (1) sales price and (2) dealer fees.
 
Both quotes are based on no money down, and capitalizing the bank fee ($625) and sales tax (7.375%).
 
At signing, I wanted to pay only the first month's payment and DMV fee. No security deposit will be required as this would be my second BMW (if I go forward).
 
MSRP of quoted vehicle is $43,945.
 
NY dealer quoted $679 per month based on sales price of $41,650. Also due at signing, in addition to first month's payment and DMV fees, is a nominal dealer fee of $45.
 
CT dealer initially quoted $678 per month based on sales price of $41,600. Then I found out they have a $275 dealer fee which they refuse to waive. I asked them to re-quote by capitalizing the fee. The revised quote is $686. The CT offer is a little bit worse of a deal. The sales prices are similar, but the CT dealer charges a higher dealer fee.
 
How about the dealer discounts being offered here? About $2,300 below MSRP. Can I expect to do much better than this through negotiation or is this pretty much the going rate?
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Re: Some First Offers - 328i Coupe [davidd3] by richz
Jun 13, 2008 (7:32 pm)
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Replying to: davidd3 (Jun 13, 2008 7:18 pm)

That payment sounds really high. I am looking for a 335xi coupe and that's what I am coming up for a 3 year / 36K lease. There is currently a $1200 (maybe $1250, can't remember) automatic transmission credit that the dealer gets from BMW so make sure when you try and figure out how much over invoice you want to pay you factor that in too. The dealer won't tell you about the $1200 credit he gets from BMW but you should know that it will certainly pad his margin on the deal.
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Re: Some First Offers - 328i Coupe [richz] by davidd3
Jun 14, 2008 (5:02 am)
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Replying to: richz (Jun 13, 2008 7:32 pm)

There is currently a $1200 (maybe $1250, can't remember) automatic transmission credit that the dealer gets from BMW so make sure when you try and figure out how much over invoice you want to pay you factor that in too. The dealer won't tell you about the $1200 credit he gets from BMW but you should know that it will certainly pad his margin on the deal.
 
So automatic transmission is basically a free option then! I could not find this credit in Edmunds "Incentives and Rebates." Is there a place where I can substantiate this credit? I just want to make sure I know what I am talking about before I press dealers to apply all or some of this credit to lower their prices.
 
I hesitate to negotiate price with dealers based on some amount above invoice, because the invoice amount I find in my internet research (e.g., Edmunds) always seems to be lower than what the dealer says is their invoice price. Instead I just get some offers and then play them off against each other. Eventually I start to see the lowest common denominator, or one dealer breaking away from the pack, as the case may be.
 
Edmunds TMV for this car is about $1,400 below MSRP. The initial quotes I got are about $2,300 below MSRP. So I supposed that I might be off to a good start. No?
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Re: Some First Offers - 328i Coupe [davidd3] by richz
Jun 15, 2008 (6:35 pm)
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Replying to: davidd3 (Jun 14, 2008 5:02 am)

You should go here and do some reading. Edmunds is not very accurate as far as incentives go.
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Re: Some First Offers - 328i Coupe [richz] by davidd3
Jun 15, 2008 (7:33 pm)
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Replying to: richz (Jun 15, 2008 6:35 pm)

You should go here and do some reading.
 
I did. It's not clear to me that it applies to leases too, but I will certainly ask my dealers about this. Thanks for pointing this out.
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Re: Some First Offers - 328i Coupe [davidd3] by davidd3
Jun 15, 2008 (7:39 pm)
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Replying to: davidd3 (Jun 15, 2008 7:33 pm)

This deal was possible b'cos of the $1210 option credit for automatic transmission.
 
I just confirmed that this credit applies to leases. The above quote was in a recent post in another Edmunds forum describing a lease deal. Thanks again.

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