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Looking for best lease deals for 2008 335i Coupe and 335i Convertible by nm_socal
Feb 13, 2008 (12:30 am)
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Looking to get the car by February month-end. Am based in Southern California. Looking to lease for 36 months, with 15k miles. Will consider $2,000 down. A+ credit.
 
* 2008 335i Coupe
* Premium Package (manual transmission)
* Sport Package
* iPod
* Metallic paint
* Exterior Color: graphite grey
 
Prices (per Edmunds):
 
======== Coupe ============
MSRP: $40,800 + options = $46,100
Invoice: $37,535 + options = $42,425
 
======== Convertible ============
MSRP: $49,100 + options = $53,600
Invoice: $45,170 + options = $49,335
 
Target price (are these possible?):
Coupe: $2,000 down, $500/month + tax
Convertible: $2,000 down, $620/month + tax
 
Can someone please post the residual and money factors for these cars? Can any dealer offer some specific deals? I am in Southern California, but am willing to drive to Northern California, San Diego or Phoenix
 
Thanks.
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Re: lease to Canada [tab5] by Car_man HOST
Feb 13, 2008 (2:41 am)
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Replying to: tab5 (Feb 09, 2008 8:51 am)

Hi tab5. You might be able to find a U.S. dealer who would be willing to sell you a car that you could bring to Canada, but I highly doubt that BMW Financial Services will lease vehicles from the U.S. to Canadians.
 
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Re: How Does This deal Sound? [scrammy] by Car_man HOST
Feb 13, 2008 (2:46 am)
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Replying to: scrammy (Feb 10, 2008 11:53 am)

Hi scrammy. The money factor that you were quoted looks good. It is right in line with BMW Financial Services' current buy rate for this model. Is the $34,000 that you mentioned this car's selling price? If so, what is its MSRP? You need to determine either how much of a discount you are being given on this car or how much over dealer invoice its selling price is. The selling prices of leased vehicles are negotiable, just as if you were paying cash for or financing them. If I was in the market for an '08 328i right now, I personally would shoot for around $500 over dealer invoice and see what happens. You can look up your car's invoice price over in the New Vehicle Pricing section of Edmunds.com.
 
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Re: Looking for best lease deals for 2008 335i Coupe and 335i Convertible [ by Car_man HOST
Feb 13, 2008 (3:03 am)
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Replying to: nm_socal (Feb 13, 2008 12:30 am)

Hi nm_socal. Let's crunch some numbers and see what sort of payments this car would have. According to my calculations, if you were to lease a 2008 BMW 335i Coupe that has an MSRP of $46,100 and a selling price of $42,925 ($500 over dealer invoice, which represents a very good deal) through BMW Financial Services right now for 36 months with 15,000 miles per year, your zero down, pre-tax monthly payment would be around $621, assuming that you are a returning BMW FS lessee or pay a security deposit at lease signing. I calculated a zero down lease because it is in your best interest to put as little money down as possible when leasing. As you can see, this payment is quite a bit higher than what you were looking for even after assuming a very thin deal. I used a money factor and residual value of .00245 and 58% to calculate this payment.
 
Let's work up a payment on the convertible now. According to my calculations, if you were to lease a 2008 BMW 335i Convertible that has an MSRP of $53,600 and a selling price of $49,835 (again $500 over invoice, which might not even be attainable) through BMW Financial Services right now for 36 months with 15,000 miles per year, your zero down, pre-tax monthly payment would be around $730. Again, this is higher than you were hoping for. I used a money factor and residual value of .00275 and 59% to calculate this payment.
 
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328xi Lease Help by cgpublic
Feb 14, 2008 (12:39 pm)
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Hi, everyone. I placed an order in December to lease a BMW 328xi sedan with a MSRP of 43,575 including the $775 destination & handling fee. The terms are for 36 months and 12K miles per year. We negotiated a capitalized cost is $41,290, which is approximately 1K over invoice. Now that I am about to take delivery, what should my pre-tax, pre-fee monthly payment represent given the present BMW MF and residual? Other than taxes, what other fees do I need to watch out for given I am transferring my plates? Thanks in advance!
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press request by kirstie_h HOST
Feb 14, 2008 (5:23 pm)
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Please check lease math by msruckus
Feb 15, 2008 (5:56 pm)
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I am buying a 335i convertible via ED.
 
MSRP (including destination) $54520
Cap Cost (ED invoice + Dealer profit) + 6.25% (must pay tax on total in TX) $51382
Cap Reduction: $1580
Residual 59% for 15k miles/year
Term 36 months
MF: [.00275+.0007(max dealer markup agreed upon)] - .00049 for MSDs = .00296
 
I get lease payments of $730. This is not what dealer just sent to me.
 
Am I missing something? i used the lease calculator on autoleaseadvisers.com
 
Thanks in advance.
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328i numbers... by ahoward2
Feb 15, 2008 (8:32 pm)
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Hello...I'm looking to Pick up a 328i coupe or sedan this Presidents Day Weekend. I would prefer the coupe but I will take the sedan if the coupe is out of my price range.
 
Im looking to get the premium pkg on the car. I'm wondering if I could get the run down on what a good sale price would be and what the residuals and MF's are for feb on both the cars. I'm looking for 36/12K lease. I am a returning BMW FS customer and I would like to put 0 down and only pay drive off. Are there any incentives for the holiday weekend? (i'm in SoCal if that makes a difference)
Im trying to keep my payments at $500/mo..is that possible??
 
Thanks to anyone that can help!
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Lease payment calculation by stevek4
Feb 16, 2008 (5:35 am)
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I've read a lot of these posts, but haven't found out how to get all the information to calculate a "good" lease payment.
 
I am lookint at a 2008 335xi, with options the MSRP $48,475. I will be leasing in St. Louis Missouri. The terms are either 2 years/12k per year or 2 years/15k per year.
I can't figure out how to find the residual value or money factor that is current, although I read that 0.002 is good/expected.
 
Can anyone tell me if that, with the above 2/12k per year, if $615/month with total at signing $3600 (approx) is a good deal, and how negotiable that would be?
The due at signing is 2500 + 1st month + 500 (?tax).
 
Or even tell me how to get the numbers and calculate it??????
 
Thanks again.
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Re: Lease payment calculation [stevek4] by cdnpinhead
Feb 16, 2008 (6:24 am)
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Replying to: stevek4 (Feb 16, 2008 5:35 am)

There are two pretty good resources here on Edmunds: 10 Steps to Leasing a New Car and Calculate Your Own Lease Payment. If I were more computer-literate, I'd give you the links embedded here, but I'm not. However, if you go back (there's a search by Msg# box at the bottom of the page) to Post #1560, the links are there. Car-Man is an excellent resource, but he only blesses us with his presence about every 4-6 weeks with 6-10 replies.
 
However, those links won't do you much good without knowing the residual values & money factors for the BMW(s) you're interested in. Go to the Bimmerfest web site, select Forums & go to the Ask-A-Dealer section. At or near the top will be the current lease rates for every BMW sold in the U.S. These can change monthly (usually don't, but can), so if it's a few months before you're ready to pull the trigger, be sure to recheck.
 
There are other things to know, like the standard $625 bank/handling fee that is often marked up to $825, and how multiple security deposits can lower the money factor enough to be the equivalent of a very nice return on the amount "invested" for the term of the lease. The security deposit amount equals the lease payment rounded up to the nearest $50. Never pay any money "down" as a cap cost reduction -- the only cap cost reduction you want is an outright discount off MSRP. Your out-the door cost should equal one month's payment, the $625 handling fee & your security deposit(s), plus possibly tax, though that's usually worked into the monthly payment.
 
Those are the basics, but there's more if you're willing to read back through a few months (or years, if you're gung-ho) of the posts here.
 
Good luck & let us know how it turns out.

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