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#1987 of 3205
For 335xi, .00021, .64 residual for 10K miles for Jan. by ursamajor
Jan 03, 2008 (8:58 pm)
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Replying to: jackals (Jan 03, 2008 7:56 pm)

I priced the car I had ordered at a client's long-time friend, who is sales manager at a high-volume S.F. Valley dealer, and he quoed me $ 1200 over invoice; my deal was $ 500 over at Pacific BMW in Glendale, CA, and I locked a basis point in by submitting my app. on Jan. 2nd at .0002.
#1988 of 3205
Tax Question by smithre4
Jan 04, 2008 (9:14 am)
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Posted this over at bimmerfest, but figured I'd also cross post.
 
In some states, tax is calculated based on the use of the car. For those states, when you want to roll the tax into the payment, the calculation is simple:
 
[(Monthly Depreciation Charge) + (Interest Charge)] * (Sales Tax) = Monthly Tax Charge
 
But what about states (like MD) where the tax is based on the selling price of the car? How do you determine the tax if you are rolling it into the payment? Is it simply:
 
(Sales Tax) * (Selling Price) / (Term) = Monthly Tax Charge
 
I think it wouldn't be like that since if it is going into the monthly payment you'd have to pay some sort of interest charge, but I'm not sure how to calculate it? Any pointers?
 
Thanks in advance.
 
Ross
#1989 of 3205
Re: Tax Question [smithre4] by kyfdx HOST
Jan 04, 2008 (9:17 am)
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Replying to: smithre4 (Jan 04, 2008 9:14 am)

Selling price X tax rate = TAX
 
TAX is added to the CAP cost, as BMWFS will pay it to the state upfront.
#1990 of 3205
Re: Tax Question [kyfdx] by smithre4
Jan 04, 2008 (9:24 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Jan 04, 2008 9:17 am)

Ah that simple. THanks kyfdx.
#1992 of 3205
Jan MF and residual by ledgem81
Jan 04, 2008 (2:16 pm)
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CarMan and Kyfdx or anyone else who might know...would you happen to have the January MF and residual on an '08 328xi Coupe yet? I have 13 months left on an '06 325i and want to see if I could get into an '08 Coupe. This forum is awesome by the way, I read it all the time.
#1993 of 3205
Money Factor Question by infoseeker1
Jan 05, 2008 (6:37 pm)
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These boards are great, thanks to all who give there information and opinion I have found myself staying up rather late the last few days reading almost every post i can come across.
 
  I'm sorry if this was answered before, I did not come across it so I thought I would ask.
 
  I am interested in a 2008 328i or 335 convertible w/ 15k miles per year for a 2 or 3 year lease and I live in Arizona.
 
  I found within forums a MF of .00295 & .00310 for the cars i stated above and my questions below revolve around the Money Factor Issue on Leasing.
 
MY QUESTIONS:
 
1. Is there a baseline MF? If so does the baseline or lowest Money Factor (MF) change every month, quarter or at certain times with the BMW Departments for each make/model of car. I ask because I notice on different post's there are different MF for the same car. If it does change how often and why?
 
At the link below you will find 2008 328/335 Convertible with a MF of .00310
Where does this .00310 come from, does it change, is this a baseline or can the dealer go lower and if so how low can or will they go?
Forum 2008 BMW MF List
 
2. Is the MF based on my credit check, meaning the higher my score the better or lower my MF would be?
 
3. Does the Dealer I am working with at the BMW Shop have the ability to go as low or high as he wants on the MF and if so what factors does he take into account to lower or raise it. Mainly asking to find out what way's i can get the lowest MF at time of sale.
 
4. I read that you could put up to 7 security deposits down lowering your MF by a percentage for each deposit. Is this true and is this a good idea and will it be in the lease that you get back all the deposit you put in or could they turn around and state the car is damaged and keep $2,000-5,000 of your deposit.
 
Thanks to anyone that can answer these questions especially since there are 2-4 questions per paragraph, sorry about that.
 
Michael
#1994 of 3205
help with my lease by maritza2
Jan 06, 2008 (5:39 pm)
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Hi Car Man & Kyfdx,
IThank you both for letting me know that the selling price was the figure that was missing in my calculations. I spoke to a total of six dealers & let them know that I knew the MSRP of the car I wanted & I just basically needed to know at what selling price they would give me the car. Many of them were not nice or helpful. I did find a saleman in Briarcliff, NY who was very cooporative. I'm plannig to get BMW 328xi on Tuesday. I figured out the lease payments myself and it sound right please let me know what you think. Thanks again.
328xi, automatic, heated front seats.
MSRP $36,850
Residual 22,478.50 (61.00%)
Selling prize $35,766 ($1,084 less)
Money Factor .00175
Due at signing:
1. 1st month $471.03
Reg. fee $55.
Bank fee/Acquisition fee $625 (He stated that the bank fee is the same as the acquisition fee. It means the same. Is this true?)
Documentation fee $45
Te recycle fee $12.50
Inspection $10.00
Sales tax $1,296.76
TTotal: $2,515.20
IS this a good deal?
#1995 of 3205
Re: help with my lease [maritza2] by boomer23
Jan 06, 2008 (7:25 pm)
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Replying to: maritza2 (Jan 06, 2008 5:39 pm)

You should be able to negotiate a better discount than $1,084 on a 328xi. This is not a rare or scarce model, so you should be able to get $2,000 off sticker or more. There's about $2,750 between the base invoice price and the MSRP, plus more when you add optional equipment.
 
Rather than working with salesmen at each dealer, use Edmunds' system to communicate with the Internet department at each dealer. To do this, configure your car on Edmunds new car prices section. Then follow up with Edmunds' "Get Dealer Quotes" to send a message to each dealer. In the text of your message, tell them that you are ready to lease this car at a price of $800 (or whatever number you feel comfortable asking) over invoice. You'll get straightforward responses from the Internet managers at several of your dealers, and you can choose which ones to work with based on their responses. If they don't respond, or won't deal at your price, forget them. Much less stress than trying to find a nice salesman.
 
Your lease numbers check out right on my calculator, assuming that money factors have gone up about .0010 from December rates, and assuming that none of your up front fees are rolled into your lease.
 
Typically, you should be able to get the base money factor assuming that you are a returning BMW customer, or if you pay one month's payment as a refundable security deposit. You didn't mention whether you are paying a security deposit or whether you are a returning BMW customer. Since I don't have the January money factors, I can't tell whether you are getting the base rate or an inflated rate.
 
Good luck with your deal. Let us know how you do.
#1996 of 3205
Re: help with my lease [boomer23] by maritza2
Jan 07, 2008 (4:46 pm)
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Replying to: boomer23 (Jan 06, 2008 7:25 pm)

Thanks Boomer23.
Yes I'm a returning BMW customer & I am not paying a security deposit this time.
I'm going to try what you said to see if I get a better deal, but if I don't I'll stick with this one & know better for next time. Thank you very much.
Maritza

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