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BMW 328Xi by satishd
Dec 13, 2007 (8:02 pm)
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I got the following deal, please tell me whether it is a good deal or not? Do I have any room for negotiation? I have no clue as this is my first lease. Please help!
BMW 328Xi sedan AWD with Premium package, Sport package with 8 way power seats and lumbar, 6 speed steptronic automatic transmission, heated front seats, ipod and usb adapter, logic 7 sound system with surround sound, Black sapphire metallic paint exterior, beige leather interior with burl walnut wood trim.
MSRP-------------------------------------- 43,375
Selling price------------------------------$ 41,875
Acquisition fee------------------------- 625.
Capital cost reductions-------------- zero
Residual value--------------------------- 63%
Money factor----------------------------- .00175
Lease term-------------------------------36 months
Monthly payment (12k)---------------------- 525.23
Security deposit----------------------- 550.
#1944 of 3218
Re: BMW 328Xi [satishd] by futurebmw
Dec 15, 2007 (10:09 am)
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Replying to: satishd (Dec 13, 2007 8:02 pm)

wow!!! that is a great little deal you got there.... here is what i am interested in:
 
bmw 328i sedan
steptronic transmission
metallic paint
premium package
sport package
xenon lights
heated seats
 
and here are the lease terms that i am interested in:
12k - 15k miles
36-39 months
$0 down
 
I have figured the msrp to be $41,075. satishd, you got a great payment for a car that has a higher msrp than i do. i want the payment to be under $500 no matter what. but obviously i want the cheapest payment that i can get. so here's the deal, 1) what factors whould i start to haggle on, and 2) when is the best time to buy, i.e. with regards to money factor and residual etc..
 
thanks.
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Please comment on this lease deal by jackals
Dec 15, 2007 (1:27 pm)
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What do you guys think. I'm not thrilled with the out of pocket. If I could get this payment with $3K out of pocket I think I would jump at it. Am I being too greedy? I don't think I can expect anything more off of the car. I think I would try and get the money factor down to possibly .00175.
 
2008 335xi Black Sapphire Metallic / Terra
Cold Weather
Premium
Steptronic
Nav
Sirius
iPod
 
MSRP - $49,820
Selling price - $46,850 ($2970 off MSRP !!!)
Residual (36 mo / 10K miles per mo) - 64%
Money Factor - .0020
 
Monthly payment - $580
Total out of pocket - $3800 ($580 first payment + $600 security deposit + $1,514 tax + $625 acqui. fee + $125 doc fee + $270 registration + sup title fee $188 = $3,902 (he will round it down to $3,800))
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Re: Please comment on this lease deal [jackals] by boomer23
Dec 15, 2007 (11:13 pm)
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Replying to: jackals (Dec 15, 2007 1:27 pm)

Looks like a very good deal. You got almost $3,000 off MSRP and exactly the current buy rate money factor of .0020. The other important thing is that you're not paying anything "down", meaning customer cash down payment that pre-pays the lease, which is not recommended.
 
I don't know how much of those doc fees, registration and supplemental title fees are pure profit for the dealer. You might challenge him on those. The $625 acqui. fee is the lowest they'll try to charge, but it is also pure profit, I hear. I'd work more on the total of those up front fees. The ones I read about most often on forums are something called MACO and training fees, and they usually total between $400 and $500.
 
The money factor is set by BMW Financial Services and can't go lower unless you pay multiple refundable security deposits. You can pay up to seven additional S.D.s. Each one will lower your money factor by .00007, but BMW will have $600 of your money for 3 years for each S.D. you pay. They're probably still a good deal, though, if you figure that you'll save about $5.50 a month for each SD that you give them, so you save $200 over the life of the loan for each $600 that you lend BMW, which is an 11% return on your money, I believe.
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Re: Please comment on this lease deal [boomer23] by jackals
Dec 16, 2007 (6:47 am)
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Replying to: boomer23 (Dec 15, 2007 11:13 pm)

Thanks for the feedback. I appreciate your input. Doc fee is a BS fee and is pure profit for the dealership. It varies by dealership in NJ but everyone pays it as far as I know. I've seen it as low as $100 and as high as $199. In PA it is a state regulated fee and is $55 at all dealerships. The acq fee is only on leases and not on loans. I'm told that it is there to cover gap insurance. The return on the investment from the multiple security deposits is probably even higher if you figure you are not paying tax on gains like you would on other investments.
#1948 of 3218
Re: Re-Leasing 05 330ci coupe by jpl
Dec 16, 2007 (11:37 am)
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Hi: Need advice, My lease expires 1/17/07, have 28,300 miles, Love the car, getting older-(63), do not want to go up in payments, but cannot find anything that keeps My interest more than thev BMW (Coupe!!!) Would it be feasible to re-lease the car, buyout is $26,200 , just put $1300 New-Run-Flats on car!! Does BMW work with You on these things, or do They really want the car back????
Also, 1 year left on Maintenance.
                                                                                    Thanks, In Advance
                                                                                                 jpl
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Leasing 328 i by ebro83
Dec 17, 2007 (9:42 am)
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Hey guys , I am interested in some feedback. I am currently negotiating a lease for a 2008 328 I. Right now the offer on the table is:
 
MSRP $39,200
 
Selling Price $37,100
 
$0 Down
 
$547 a month
 
36 Months
12k Year
Money Factor .00100
Residual 67%
 
All taxes and fees are rolled into the monthly. Thoughts????
#1950 of 3218
residual and money factor by jackals
Dec 17, 2007 (11:20 am)
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How are people able to negotiate the residual and money factor? I have talked to 4 different dealerships about a lease and every single one of them has told me that for 36 mos and 10K miles the residual is 64%. They all presented the same MF of .00200 also. Each has said that these are directly from BMW Financial Services and they are not negotiable. How are people getting better MFs and residuals?

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