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Re: 2008 335i sedan [jmcbmw] by smithsonga
Dec 05, 2007 (5:18 pm)
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Replying to: jmcbmw (Dec 02, 2007 4:33 pm)

Wow..what was MSRP on that puppy?
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Re: 2008 335i sedan [smithsonga] by jmcbmw
Dec 07, 2007 (10:55 pm)
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Replying to: smithsonga (Dec 05, 2007 5:18 pm)

The MSRP was $49275 got the deal at Stevens Creek BMW in San Jose CA. I am from LA but was hard to find a car with heated seats in So Cal. Plus, the internet manager and entire staff was amazingly friendly and accomodating and gave me at least as good a price as I could have gotten in LA.
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Lease Deal by niclaf77
Dec 08, 2007 (4:45 pm)
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just got back from making a deal on a 2008 bmw 328xi and thought i would share - hopefully it will help someone out.
 
2008 BMW 328 xi with premium package, cold weather package, ipod adaptor, automatic.
MSRP - $40,858 (invoice - $37,640)
Cap Cost - $38,540
36 months - 12,000 miles per year
Residual - 63%
Money Factor - .00165
Down Payment - $0
Monthly Payment - $496.54 (this includes tax)
Due at signing - $2089 (Acquisition $625, First Month $496, Security Deposit - $500, Registration - $262.50, Doc Fee - $199, Tire Tax - $6)
 
It was the easiest car deal i ever made and i highly recommend BMW of Freehold in NJ - John McBride was the salesman - very easy to deal with - no shady dealings. let me know if you have any questions!
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newbie to bmw leasing by futurebmw
Dec 10, 2007 (11:16 am)
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Replying to: niclaf77 (Dec 08, 2007 4:45 pm)

hi everyone. first pf all, i wanted to say thank you to all those who have been posting on this forum. i have learned so much from all of you guys. i just had a couple questions about leasing in general. i wanted to know what the values are that we should be haggling with the dealer on?
 
1. i know that the msrp is DEFINITELY the first place to start. i am getting the idea that i should not be paying more than $1000 above invoice.
 
2. is the residual value fixed or negotiable? and does changing the lease from 10k to 12k to 15k change the overall please price much?
 
3. is the money factor another value which is set by BMW financial and non-negotiable?
 
4. what exactly is the bank fee and is that something which is required, or again is it negotiable?
 
any other tips regarding negotiating with dealers. i am trying, for the first time, not to negotiate the monthly price but instead to haggle down each parameter to the lowest and then just plugging in the calculation in hopes of a better deal. thanks to everyone in advance.
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Re: newbie to bmw leasing [futurebmw] by niclaf77
Dec 10, 2007 (10:19 pm)
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Replying to: futurebmw (Dec 10, 2007 11:16 am)

i will try and answer some of your questions.
1 - the msrp is the sticker price on the car and i found with bmw - it seems to be about $3000 over invoice. you can go right here on edmunds.com and build a car the way that you want it and it will tell you both msrp and invoice of the car. it will also tell you what other people are paying in your area. it depends on the type of car - for bmw, i would try to pay no more than $1000 over invoice - this can be easy or hard depending on how popular the car is and how bad they want to make a deal. see my deal above - i saved about $2100 off msrp and paid about $900 over invoice.
 
2- the residual percentage is set by bmw each month. the residual values are different for each car and are also different depending on how many miles and lease term. for example - a 3 month lease with 10,000 miles a year on the bmw 328xi had a residual of 64% - with 12,000 miles, it went down to 63%. you can usually come on here and find out what the residuals are on the car that you are looking for. they are not negotiable so you want to make sure they are not using a different number and making money off of you.
 
3- the money factor is also set by bmw each month and each car has a different one - this is your interest rate - be careful as some dealers try to mark these up to make a profit. again, you can come on here and find out what the money factor is for the car you are looking at.
 
4- the bank fee is $625 for bmw - some dealers try to mark it up to $825 but i would not pay more than $625 for this. i don't think it is negotiable with bmw. i know that some dealers will waive this fee if you have tier one credit but i am not sure if bmw is one of them.
 
i would go to the dealer equipped with all of the numbers above as well as the target price you are looking to negotiate for the car. also, use the lease calculation with those numbers to get an idea of what your payment should be, before you go in. also, bring the equation with you and a calculator so that you can plug the agreed upon numbers into it while you are there. good luck and i hope some of this was helpful!
 
nicole
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assume a lease? by njfresh08
Dec 12, 2007 (1:24 am)
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okay a friend of a friend of mine got a 2007 335i coupe its alpine white/coral red
with:
Walnut Trim
6MT Transmission
Premium Package
Sport Package
Navigation
Lease Term - 36 months (34 payments remaining)
Lease Mileage - 10K per year
Lease Payment - $629 including taxes
car has 986 miles on it
the thing is he is moving overseas.is it worth taking it over?
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Re: assume a lease? [njfresh08] by boomer23
Dec 12, 2007 (3:40 pm)
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Replying to: njfresh08 (Dec 12, 2007 1:24 am)

Sounds like a great deal if the mileage works for you. How many miles has he put on it so far? Will the 10K miles per year work for you? Excess mileage charges are very expensive, though I was told that during the lease, you can ask to have the miles per year increased, of course for a fee. Also, some of the 2007 335s had oil temperature problems, causing BMW to install an oil cooler, and some had a failure of the high pressure fuel pump. All of this is covered under warranty, of course, but you might try to find out of these issues have been addressed on this car.
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BMW 328Xi by satishd
Dec 13, 2007 (9:02 pm)
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I got the following deal, please tell me whether it is a good deal or not? Do I have any room for negotiation? I have no clue as this is my first lease. Please help!
BMW 328Xi sedan AWD with Premium package, Sport package with 8 way power seats and lumbar, 6 speed steptronic automatic transmission, heated front seats, ipod and usb adapter, logic 7 sound system with surround sound, Black sapphire metallic paint exterior, beige leather interior with burl walnut wood trim.
MSRP-------------------------------------- 43,375
Selling price------------------------------$ 41,875
Acquisition fee------------------------- 625.
Capital cost reductions-------------- zero
Residual value--------------------------- 63%
Money factor----------------------------- .00175
Lease term-------------------------------36 months
Monthly payment (12k)---------------------- 525.23
Security deposit----------------------- 550.
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Re: BMW 328Xi [satishd] by futurebmw
Dec 15, 2007 (11:09 am)
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Replying to: satishd (Dec 13, 2007 9:02 pm)

wow!!! that is a great little deal you got there.... here is what i am interested in:
 
bmw 328i sedan
steptronic transmission
metallic paint
premium package
sport package
xenon lights
heated seats
 
and here are the lease terms that i am interested in:
12k - 15k miles
36-39 months
$0 down
 
I have figured the msrp to be $41,075. satishd, you got a great payment for a car that has a higher msrp than i do. i want the payment to be under $500 no matter what. but obviously i want the cheapest payment that i can get. so here's the deal, 1) what factors whould i start to haggle on, and 2) when is the best time to buy, i.e. with regards to money factor and residual etc..
 
thanks.

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