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Re: 2006 325i sedan lease [wagon098] by bdr127
Oct 27, 2005 (6:28 am)
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Replying to: wagon098 (Oct 26, 2005 11:51 pm)

This seems a little high to me using a money factor of .0025 and a residual of 63%. Sales tax is 6.25%.
 
.0025 is the base money factor for a 325i.... (i.e. dealer is making no extra money on you)
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Re: 2006 325i sedan lease [wagon098] by kyfdx HOST
Oct 27, 2005 (6:56 am)
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Replying to: wagon098 (Oct 26, 2005 11:51 pm)

Did they say that they were using .0025 as the money factor? Because adding in the acquisition fee to the selling price of $32,670 gives you a cap cost of 33,295.. and a residual of 64%.. (63% is the residual for 12K/yr).. and using an MF of .0025, results in a payment of $468/mo. + tax...
 
So, someone is making extra money somewhere.. I doubt tax could account for over $100/mo..
 
If they are quoting 12K mi./yr, a residual of 63% and marking up the money factor the maximum to .0029, then the payment would be $498/mo.+ tax.. Still, far below your payment..
 
I think you need to ask them what cap cost they are using to calculate the lease... and what is in it... There shouldn't be anything other than your selling price and acquisition fee ($625)... I'm guessing there is a lot more than that..
 
regards,
kyfdx
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Locking in Lease Terms - 2006 330i by jon330cic
Oct 27, 2005 (7:39 am)
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I'm scheduled to pick up a 2006 330i on 02-Jan-2006 in Munich. This would put the contract date at the middle of Dec-2005 (14 days ahead of pickup).
 
Does the 60-day period for locking in lease terms count backwards from the Delivery date (Jan-06) or the Contract date (Dec-05)?
 
I'm doing a 3-yr, 12K/yr lease. The October program was a big improvement over previous months. If I can lock in 60 days ahead of the Contract date, I can do the Oct program. If the lock in is from Delivery date, I will have to wait for the Nov program.
 
Also, anyone hear rumors yet on what the Nov lease programs will look like?
 
Thank you!
Jon
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Re: Locking in Lease Terms - 2006 330i [jon330cic] by kyfdx HOST
Oct 27, 2005 (7:42 am)
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Replying to: jon330cic (Oct 27, 2005 7:39 am)

Lock it now... the lease program in effect at the time you have to pay for it, will be the one they use (December)... or, of course, October's program if it is better and you lock this month...
 
regards,
kyfdx
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Re: 2006 325i sedan lease [kyfdx] by wagon098
Oct 27, 2005 (12:00 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Oct 27, 2005 6:56 am)

Thanks for the reply. They did not tell me mf .0025 and 64% residual. I went back to the dealer and asked for specifically for the base mf and 64% residual and I'm currently waiting for a reply.
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Question by isamu66
Oct 27, 2005 (2:57 pm)
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I love this forum...it has been extremely helpful in my negotiations...
 
I am looking at a 325i, but only after I sell my 2003 Tahoe through private party. I did consider trading it in through the dealership, but I know they will try to nickel and dime me. I set up a little Excel worksheet to help me in the lease calculations.
 
Originally the salesperson offered a money factor of 0.00265...but after reading this forum, I knew to ask for 0.0025
 
The salesman offered a money factor of 0.00265 if I choose not to pay the security deposit of approx. $500. A lower money factor of 0.0025 is offered if I pay the security deposit.
 
After playing with the numbers, my spreadsheet is telling me that the lower higher interest and no security deposit means the lower monthly payment.
 
The salesperson is also trying to pass off an $825 bank fee, but after reading this forum I know to ask for $625. He is also passing off document fees and tire tax, which I will also ask to be removed.
 
I am just basically looking right now for the best configuration, but I wanted to post how thankful I am to have found this forum!
 
Charles
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Re: Question [isamu66] by bdr127
Oct 27, 2005 (3:09 pm)
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Replying to: isamu66 (Oct 27, 2005 2:57 pm)

The salesman offered a money factor of 0.00265 if I choose not to pay the security deposit of approx. $500. A lower money factor of 0.0025 is offered if I pay the security deposit.
 
Just a note here... You do still pay the security deposit (which, btw, you get back at the end of the lease), but it is rolled into your cap cost at a charge of a .00015 MF increase. My point is that it doesn't just "disappear"....
 
He is also passing off document fees and tire tax, which I will also ask to be removed.
 
What state are you in? "Tire tax" is actually a legitimate state tax in some states. (FWIW, I'd think if a dealer claims it is a "tax" then it's a government thing and isn't just an additional fee.) I know, for instance, that PA, NJ, and OH have tire taxes.... Everyone has to pay them, unfortunately. It seems like a bogus way for the state to collect more revenue.... Leave it up to our politicians!
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Re: Question [isamu66] by kyfdx HOST
Oct 27, 2005 (4:17 pm)
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Replying to: isamu66 (Oct 27, 2005 2:57 pm)

The payment may be lower, if you waive the deposit and take the higher money factor, but your total cash outlay over the life of the lease will be higher...
 
What did you miss in your calculations? You get the $500 back at the end of the lease...
 
regards,
kyfdx
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Re: CAR MAN OR ANYONE PLEASE PLEASE HELP ASAP! I AM BUYING TODAY! [isamu66] by speedy19
Oct 27, 2005 (10:02 pm)
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Replying to: isamu66 (Oct 26, 2005 9:30 am)

Hello Charles,
 
I bought it from Santa Monica BMW.
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Re: CAR MAN OR ANYONE PLEASE PLEASE HELP ASAP! [Car_man] by speedy19
Oct 27, 2005 (10:12 pm)
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Replying to: Car_man (Oct 26, 2005 3:43 am)

Hello Carman,
Once again, I cannot thank you and the rest of the forum for all of your help. I really appreciate it. The car buying experience is extremely tricky (and expensive) without people like you to clarify things for us.
You are indeed right, my pretax monthly is $422, if I did not capitalize the acquisition fee and add tax. With tax and acquisition fee rolled into my monthly, it works out to $471 (DAMN THATS ALOT OF MONEY!) im just a student tryin to get by! haha.
By the way, is the residual values negotiable. I got 15k miles / year on the 06 325i with a residual of 61% (could we have negotiated 62%??)... anyway I really appreciate your help.
Thanks,
 
Ajay
 
PS for the other poster who asked where i got the deal, I got it in Santa Monica BMW in California.

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