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BMW 3-Series Lease Questions

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Re: CAR MAN OR ANYONE PLEASE PLEASE HELP ASAP! I AM BUYING TODAY! [isamu66] by kirstie_h HOST
Oct 26, 2005 (8:33 am)
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Replying to: isamu66 (Oct 26, 2005 8:30 am)

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Re: CAR MAN OR ANYONE PLEASE PLEASE HELP ASAP! [Car_man] by aussiem8
Oct 26, 2005 (8:51 am)
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Replying to: Car_man (Oct 26, 2005 2:43 am)

Car_man,
 
If you chose to waive the $625 acquisition fee with BMW, roughly what would be the incremental cash cost over the life of the lease if you either capitalized it into the cost or went with the higher money factor? In other words, what would you recommend, pay it up front or not?
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Re: CAR MAN OR ANYONE PLEASE PLEASE HELP ASAP! [aussiem8] by kyfdx HOST
Oct 26, 2005 (11:29 am)
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Replying to: aussiem8 (Oct 26, 2005 8:51 am)

If you capitalize it into the monthly payment, it is $625/term.. For example $625/36 = $17.36/mo.. It will actually be slightly higher than this, as the $625 in the cap cost will be subject to the money factor.. Maybe add another $1.00-$1.50 per month to account for that....
 
I always recommend rolling it into the payment, for the same reason that you wouldn't want to make a cap cost reduction...
 
Rolling it in is cheaper than having it waived...
 
regards,
kyfdx
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2006 325xi wagon lease by wagon098
Oct 26, 2005 (2:34 pm)
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I was wondering if this was a fair quote on a 36month/10000 miles per year lease:
325 xi wagon
msrp 40520 (including metallic paint, premium package, automatic transmission, heated seats)
dest. charge 695
shipping freight for shipping car from out of state dealer 800
tax here is 6.25
0 down, rolling taxes into the monthly payment
paying only a security deposit and first month payment at delivery
$681 per month
Thanks
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2006 325i sedan lease by wagon098
Oct 26, 2005 (10:51 pm)
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In case the wagon didn't work out (see above post), I also go a quote on a 325i 36mon/10000 mile lease. 30,900 msrp plus 1275 auto trans, 475 metallic paint, 75 sat. radio prep, 695 dest. charge for total 33420. Discounted to 32670. 0 down, rolling taxes and fees into the monthly payment.
Paying only a security deposit and first month's payment at delivery.
$572 per month.
This seems a little high to me using a money factor of .0025 and a residual of 63%. Sales tax is 6.25%.
Am I using the wrong numbers for mf and residual? Also, what would be a fair price?
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Re: 2006 325i sedan lease [wagon098] by bdr127
Oct 27, 2005 (5:28 am)
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Replying to: wagon098 (Oct 26, 2005 10:51 pm)

This seems a little high to me using a money factor of .0025 and a residual of 63%. Sales tax is 6.25%.
 
.0025 is the base money factor for a 325i.... (i.e. dealer is making no extra money on you)
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Re: 2006 325i sedan lease [wagon098] by kyfdx HOST
Oct 27, 2005 (5:56 am)
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Replying to: wagon098 (Oct 26, 2005 10:51 pm)

Did they say that they were using .0025 as the money factor? Because adding in the acquisition fee to the selling price of $32,670 gives you a cap cost of 33,295.. and a residual of 64%.. (63% is the residual for 12K/yr).. and using an MF of .0025, results in a payment of $468/mo. + tax...
 
So, someone is making extra money somewhere.. I doubt tax could account for over $100/mo..
 
If they are quoting 12K mi./yr, a residual of 63% and marking up the money factor the maximum to .0029, then the payment would be $498/mo.+ tax.. Still, far below your payment..
 
I think you need to ask them what cap cost they are using to calculate the lease... and what is in it... There shouldn't be anything other than your selling price and acquisition fee ($625)... I'm guessing there is a lot more than that..
 
regards,
kyfdx
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Locking in Lease Terms - 2006 330i by jon330cic
Oct 27, 2005 (6:39 am)
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I'm scheduled to pick up a 2006 330i on 02-Jan-2006 in Munich. This would put the contract date at the middle of Dec-2005 (14 days ahead of pickup).
 
Does the 60-day period for locking in lease terms count backwards from the Delivery date (Jan-06) or the Contract date (Dec-05)?
 
I'm doing a 3-yr, 12K/yr lease. The October program was a big improvement over previous months. If I can lock in 60 days ahead of the Contract date, I can do the Oct program. If the lock in is from Delivery date, I will have to wait for the Nov program.
 
Also, anyone hear rumors yet on what the Nov lease programs will look like?
 
Thank you!
Jon
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Re: Locking in Lease Terms - 2006 330i [jon330cic] by kyfdx HOST
Oct 27, 2005 (6:42 am)
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Replying to: jon330cic (Oct 27, 2005 6:39 am)

Lock it now... the lease program in effect at the time you have to pay for it, will be the one they use (December)... or, of course, October's program if it is better and you lock this month...
 
regards,
kyfdx
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Re: 2006 325i sedan lease [kyfdx] by wagon098
Oct 27, 2005 (11:00 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Oct 27, 2005 5:56 am)

Thanks for the reply. They did not tell me mf .0025 and 64% residual. I went back to the dealer and asked for specifically for the base mf and 64% residual and I'm currently waiting for a reply.

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