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Prices Paid: Buying & Leasing Experiences Audi A4 Lease Questions
3298 messages, Last post on Mar 21, 2010 at 5:37 AM
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Greetings Chips. You never mentioned the selling price or MSRP of the car that you are interested in leasing. These are important numbers for you as a consumer to know for two reasons. First, the selling prices of leased vehicles can be negotiated, just as if you were paying cash for them. Without knowing this car's selling price in relation to its MSRP you don't know how much of a discount you are getting on it. The second reason is that one needs the selling price and MSRP, including the destination charge, of a vehicle to calculate its lease payment. I would be more than happy to give you my opinion on this deal and to work up a sample lease payment on the car that you are interested in for you if you let me know what these numbers are. Car_man Host Smart Shopper / Prices Paid Forums
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Hello s130t. With a credit score of over 700, you will definitely qualify for Audi Financial Services' special lease program for the 2006 A4. Audi Financial Services' lease program for the 2006 A4 Avant is different than its program for the '06 A4 Sedan, so estimating a lease payment on the wagon is more complicated than just adding $1,000 to the vehicle's price. If you let me know the full MSRP (with the destination charge added in) and an approximate selling price are for the exact A4 Avant that you are interested in, I would be happy to calculate a sample lease payment on it using AFS actual lease program for you. Car_man Host Smart Shopper / Prices Paid Forums
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Hi rosemarie1. It is difficult to say whether Audi's lease program on the A4 will be more attractive several months from now than it is today. Unless Audi has some sort of program that allows you to lock-in its current lease program on an ordered vehicle, you will have to use the program that is available on your car at the time of delivery to calculate its lease payment. Car_man Host Smart Shopper / Prices Paid Forums
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Just leased a 2006 Audi A4 2.0T - Auto/FrontTrak with the sunroof pkg and Premium pkg and XM radio. Here are the details of the lease (24 months/12000 miles) MSRP: 33,635 Selling Price: 32,000 Monthly Payment: $374 + tax Paid an inception: Acquisition fee + Tag/Title. = $1300 I was in the market for an Acura TL (as you may have noticed from my username in this forum) but then realized the Audi was the right one for me. |
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The selling price we got to (in the event I decided to buy) was $34,900 on a MSRP (including transportation) of $35,785. The dealer told me: a) They generally are selling the 06 A4's in this area at no more than $600-800 off MSRP and they are flying out the door - affluent suburbs. They had none in stock to test drive and the evening I was there to sign, two customers were picking up A6's and three were picking up A4's.; 2) The color I selected (Quartz) is a special order color, so that means they are much less likely to find one at another dealer than if it was Black, Red, Silver & a few others he mentioned. They started with the advertised 24-month 10,000 miles a year (and $.25/mile for excess miles) $369/month with at-closing add'l $439 down and a $575 acquisition fee (sales tax on top of all this). At one point they were talking over $500 a month, but my final deal is: monthly lease $471.31 including all sales tax (8.375% in my area), the $439 downpayment rolled into the lease, plus 15,000 miles annually. When I pick it up all I pay is a $575 acquisition fee, first month lease payment and $67.50 for NYS DMV fees and a dealer "document" charge. No trade involved. Another point: The dealer agreed with me that the pricing and option group content on the models he showed me the invoices for has changed from what is on the Audi site and on the pricing services (Edmunds, KBB, etc). Example: Now the Premium Package includes the 235/45 X 17 all-season tires and 5-double spoke alloys as well as heated front seats - different from what you see at Audi.com and the others. So, making comparisons between 2005.5 and real early 2006 models to what is the practice now is difficult for a buyer since content and price are different. Any input on the deal will be appreciated - but in any event I am hoping to enjoy the car. Thanks. |
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Blessings on you, Car Man. I'm going down to one dealership Tuesday morning and I like to be armed with the numbers. The cost of the car, including the extras as well as destination charge and advertising (1% of MSRP) is $36,762. I had the dealership work the numbers from how much I wanted my monthly payments to be (not to exceed $500/month, including tax). They quoted $3416 as my initial paymet and my monthly payment would be exactly $500. And the money factor is .0022 with a 60% residual value. Is this good? Do I understand the terms but not the large picture? Thanks |
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Hi Car_Man. I wanted to ask you if you had any thoughts on the current A4 lease deal. The deal is as follows for the 2006 A4 2.0T FrontTrak CVT Sedan (with Sunroof Package): MSRP - $30,960 $349/mo for 24 months $0 down, $575 acquisition fee, and $349 first month's payment due at signing (totaling $924) 10K miles/year Residual - 75% ($23,220) In trying to figure out the cap cost (assuming title, tax, and any other fees are paid at signing up front) that was being used in the special lease deal to see if it was a good deal, I had emailed a few Audi dealers in the Southern California area and one actually cut and pasted this chart that showed that the money factor being used by Audi Financial Services was: A4 2.0 FT: 0.00274 (12-36 mo), 0.00294 (39-48 mo), 0.00410 (60 mo) A4 2.0 quattro: same as above. I saw that you mentioned in an earlier reply that the AFS money factor being used is 0.00139. Am I being quoted an inflated money factor? It seems like putting in the money factor I was quoted would result in a lower cap cost used in the special lease offer whereas putting in the money factor you mentioned earlier would result in a higher cap cost used in the special lease offer. Any thoughts?
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Replying to: byrdgirl (Sep 25, 2005 5:27 pm) Try these numbers:- MSRP $30,960.00 Selling price $29,728.00 Residual $23,220 (75% of MSRP) Money Factor 0.00147 Monthly Payment $349.00 + tax If you use a MF of 0.00139 as suggested by car_man - you will need to change the Selling price to $29,827 for a monthly payment of $349.00 |
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Hey Car Man, Audi has publised the following deal in newspapers here in the NJ area, good until 11/30/2005: 2006 A4 2.0T Quattro MSRP $35310 24 MO Lease, 10,000 Miles $439 Down Payment $575 Acquisition Fee $369 First Month's Payment Total due at lease inception $1,383 Purchase Option at Lease End $26,835.60 $369 per month The dealer told me the money factor is .00139. I assume that the purchase option amount is the same as a residual, so it must be about 76%. No matter how I plug these numbers into any lease calculators I found on line, I can't come close to the $369 per month. I'm always significantly higher. I'm interested in this deal, but I want to add an option package and go for 15,000 miles instead of 10,000. If I could figure out how Audi got to these numbers, I'd be in a better position to rework them to negotiate a deal with the higher mileage, options, etc. What do you think? Are they using a LOWER money factor than .00139? What am I missing?  Regards, ***Mooselook***
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