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Audi A4 Lease Questions

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Re: Good deal? [d_dietcoke] by asheh
Apr 16, 2006 (4:28 pm)
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Replying to: d_dietcoke (Apr 14, 2006 7:10 am)

Yes..well that is what they gave me anyway. I decided not to go with the Audi. The Acura TSX is a much better deal. I was qouted by Bell Audi in Rahway, NJ... not the most trustworthy dealer IMHO
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Be Careful of Leith Audi at Raleigh, NC: Extremely Bad Experience! by qyl
Apr 17, 2006 (9:59 am)
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Be careful if you plan to buy or lease from Leith Audi in Raleigh North Carolina. I had extremely bad experience with them and was robbed by them. They play all kinds of tricks.
 
1)They refuse to disclose the money factor and residual value to you, only stick to the monthly payment.
 
I was told I could get 0.00064 MF and 65% residual value for a A4 2.0T Quattro with 24 month 15K miles per year lease.
 
Then when I went to the dealershop and negotiated with the salesman, he refused to confirm the money factor and residual value saying he simply does not know and does not care. (They actually used 0.00080 0.65%instead.)
 
2)They changed the price they promised.
 
They promised me a price of $35,200 (MSRP $36,985, Invoice $34,335) during negotiation. Then the salesperson told me to add $1,084 acquistion fee and other fees to the price. Then I learned that this $1084 is "Pure Dealer Profit". The acquisition fee is charged separately and not included in the price.
 
So the final price is $36,284.
 
Lessons Learned:
 
1)Never, Never trust the car salesman. They always tell lies and play tricks on you.
 
2)Insist on the details and breakdowns of any fee or charges, especially the money factor, residual value...etc. Do not assume anything.
 
3)Choose a better dealer
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Re: Be Careful of Leith Audi at Raleigh, NC: Extremely Bad Experience! [qyl] by rjlaero
Apr 17, 2006 (12:39 pm)
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Replying to: qyl (Apr 17, 2006 9:59 am)

gyl,
  
  
Something you need to know about leasing. A dealer CANNOT change the residual value of a car. That is SET by the bank and cannot be negotiated. It will depend on the term and how many miles per year you contract to drive. A 36mo /10k lease will have a different residual value than a 36 / 15k lease.
  
If you look on the AUDIUSA.COM website, you can clearly see there is an aquisition fee on the A4 lease special.
 
   
At the bottom of that lease add, you also see that any dealer fees will be added to that. Many dealers in the USA do have ducmentation fees they charge as dealer to handle all of your titling and DMV work. Some dealers may charge $100 - $400 or more as a Documentation Fee. It's up to the dealer to decide if they charge a documentation fee.
 
2006 A4 2.0 T quattro Sedan
$369 per month
36-month lease*
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Down payment $999
Refundable security deposit NA
Acquisition fee $575
First month's payment $369
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Amount due at lease inception $1,943
 
Excludes taxes, title and dealer fees. See dealer for details.
 
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Re: Be Careful of Leith Audi at Raleigh, NC: Extremely Bad Experience! [rjlaero] by qyl
Apr 17, 2006 (12:51 pm)
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Replying to: rjlaero (Apr 17, 2006 12:39 pm)

I did pay $575 acquisition fee and $398 documentation fee.
 
However, the trick is:
 
1)They agreed on the price of $35,200 but asked me to add $1,084 "fees".
 
2)Then they told me the $1,084 includes the acquisition fee and other fees. They lied about this $1,084 "fees".
 
3)Actually, they changed the price to $36,284 and I paid the acquisition fee and documentation fee on top of the $36,284 real price.
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Re: Be Careful of Leith Audi at Raleigh, NC: Extremely Bad Experience! [qyl] by rjlaero
Apr 17, 2006 (12:54 pm)
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Replying to: qyl (Apr 17, 2006 12:51 pm)

How much total out of pocket money did you put down?
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Re: Be Careful of Leith Audi at Raleigh, NC: Extremely Bad Experience! [rjlaero] by qyl
Apr 17, 2006 (12:58 pm)
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Replying to: rjlaero (Apr 17, 2006 12:54 pm)

Total $1,118 including $600 monthly payment, $30 Wear&Tear protection, $79 Registration, $398 documentation fee, and $11 tax.
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Re: 2006 Audi A4 2.0T Avant [mattzinzi] by Car_man HOST
Apr 17, 2006 (3:55 pm)
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Replying to: mattzinzi (Apr 06, 2006 5:47 pm)

Here you go, mattzinzi. If you were to lease a 2006 Audi A4 2.0T Avant through Audi Financial Services right now for 24 months with 15,000 miles per year, its buy rate lease money factor and residual value should be .00064 and 65%, respectively. The numbers for an otherwise identical 36 month lease should be .00064 and 54%. The numbers for an otherwise identical 39 month lease should be .00084 and 51%. I haven't seen this car's 42 month numbers. If you were to lease it with 12,000 miles per year, its residual values would be 2% higher. Its 10k residuals would be 3% higher.
 
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Re: 2006 Audi A4 2.0T with CVT [cvpacguy] by Car_man HOST
Apr 17, 2006 (4:02 pm)
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Replying to: cvpacguy (Apr 06, 2006 6:12 pm)

Hi cvpacguy. The numbers that you were quoted for this car are actually right on the money. The money factor that you were quoted assumes that you want to have your car's security deposit waived. If you don't mind paying a security deposit at lease signing that is equivalent to your car's monthly payment rounded up to the nearest $25 increment (you will get this money back at lease-end if your car is in good shape and not over your mileage allowance), this car's factor would be .00015 lower.
 
OK, I just did some checking and apparently Audi is waiving its security deposit requirement for this car in April. That means that its base factor would indeed be .00015 lower. Make sure to insist that the dealer you are working with waives this car's security deposit at no additional charge.
 
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Re: Audi A4: Lease Questions [mkrez] by Car_man HOST
Apr 17, 2006 (4:17 pm)
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Replying to: mkrez (Apr 06, 2006 6:21 pm)

Hey mkrez. At lease signing, Audi Financial Services requires lessees to pay their vehicle's first month's payment, a security deposit equivalent to that payment rounded up to the nearest $25 increment (though I believe that it is waiving its security deposit requirement on this car right now), its $575 acquisition fee, and any required state taxes or fees.
 
The money factor that you were quoted for this car is right in line with AFS buy rate for it right now. I don't know when I mentioned the higher factor that you are referring to, but Audi publishes a new lease program every month. Perhaps the one that you looked at is expired.
 
I believe that I remember hearing that Massachusetts charges sales tax on vehicles' entire lease payments, but I am not intimately familiar with your state's taxation policy. You may want to check out the following sites to see if they have is any additional information on this subject: Massachusetts Registry of Motor Vehicles or Mass Department of Revenue.
 
Don't let the fact that you are getting a good deal on this car scare you. You would really need to be scared if the dealer you are working with was trying to charge you full MSRP for it .
 
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