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#4166 of 4290 Re: TT to A4 Prem Plus [milfedout]
by Car_man HOST
Oct 07, 2012 (6:42 am)
Hi milfedout. The money factor that you were quoted for the A4 looks good. Let's turn to the selling price.
As a current Audi lessee you are eligible for a $1,000 cash incentive on your new A4. Add to that the spread of around $2,700 between this car's full MSRP and dealer invoice price and you have a total of around $3,700 or so to play with during your negotiations. You were quoted a dealer discount of $1,785. Soooooo if the dealer is not subtracting the loyalty cash from your offer you're still at around $2,000 over invoice. That's not horrific, but you should be able to do a lot better than that on an A4. The likely reason why this spread is so large is that you are getting out of your TT lease extremely early. Doing so usually hampers one's ability to get the best possible deal on their new vehicle.
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#4167 of 4290 Re: Audi A4: Lease Questions [Car_man]
by pmichael
Oct 08, 2012 (8:04 am)
CarMan,
Greatly appreciate your assistance. After reading your forum I feel like I was offered a terrible deal but I am still negotiating.
36 mo. Lease 12k
2013 A4 2.ot Quattro tiptonic
Scuba blue premium plus
Nav plus
Advanced key etc.
0 down
Top credit
Msrp $44,105
Residual $25,139
Quote…$700 mo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! w/o tax maintainenece…What should I expect?
Can you provide an range? Thank you.
Regards
Paul Michael
#4168 of 4290 2013 AllRoad Premium Plus
by dan412
Oct 08, 2012 (1:31 pm)
Hello Carman:
I'd appreciate your input regarding this offer I got for a 36m, 10K lease (with loyalty bonus)
MSRP: 47,490 (Prem+,MMI Nav, First Aid kit, side airbags + sun shades)
Purchase price: 45,414
Residual: 27,544
Total Cap Cost: 48,351.57
Cap reduction: 359.15
Rebate: 1000
NET cap cost: 46,992.42 ( 48351 less 359.15 + 1000)
NY Tax (total): 2385.48
Lease factors:
MF: .00135
Depr: 540.23
Rent: 100.62
Base pmt: 640.85
Delivery cash due: 1000 + doc/aquisition fees,etc + 1st payment. Does this look right?
Thanks in advance.
#4169 of 4290 2013 Audi A4 2.0T Quattro Prem Plus / Sport
by schindy
Oct 08, 2012 (9:30 pm)
Hey thanks for all the free help Car_man!
I have 06 A4 so I am eligible for the $1000 cash rebate. Looking at leasing a 2013 A4 2.0T QUATTRO TIPTRONIC (PREM PLUS, SPORT PACKAGE). Details for the deal are below:
SALE PRICE $40,076
ACQ FEE $695
DOC FEE $80
VEHICLE TOTAL $40,851
DMV $390
TIRE $9
CAP RED $456
REBATE $1000
TOTAL CCR $1456
TOTAL CAP COST $40851
TOTAL CC REDUCT $1456
ADJ CAP COST $39,394.96
MSRP $44,285
RES FACTOR 57%
RESIDUAL $25,242
CUST CASH $1500
DRIVEOFF $2500
MONTHLY BASE $466.82
MONTHLY TAX $43.18
MONTHLY PAYMENT $510
-$1500 down
-36 Months
-Top Credit
-12k Miles Per Year
The salesguy said it would be 35 remaining payments of $510 including taxes. Will it really be $1500 out of pocket and really $510 for the remaining 35 months for a total of $19,350? Anything hidden or fishy?
Also, do you know if I can still prepay $450 upfront for 36 total months of AudiConnect (6 months free +30 mos prepaid)?
Thanks in advance!
#4170 of 4290 Re: Audi A4: Lease Questions [pmichael]
by Car_man HOST
Oct 10, 2012 (3:12 pm)
Hi Paul. $700 per month is way out of whack for an Audi A4, even a $44,000 one. Heck even at full MSRP this car would only be $600 per month, and I know that you can do better than full MSRP. Run away from this dealer.
If I was in the market for this car in an area that has a decent level of competition, I personally would shoot for a selling price of $500 to $1,000 over invoice plus the use of Audi Financial Services' buy rate lease money factor of .00114. You can look up the exact invoice price of the car that you want over in the New Vehicle Pricing section of Edmunds.com.
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#4171 of 4290 Re: 2013 AllRoad Premium Plus [dan412]
by Car_man HOST
Oct 10, 2012 (3:17 pm)
Hi dan412. The money factor that you were quoted looks good. It's right in line with Audi Financial Services' buy rate for this car. Now let's take a look at this car's selling price.
The allroad that you're interested in probably has a spread of around $3,200 or so between its full MSRP and its dealer invoice price. That probably puts the selling price that you were quoted at around $1,200 or so over invoice. That's not too bad, but there might be a couple hundred dollars to play with here if you shop around in an area that has a decent level of competition.
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#4172 of 4290 Re: 2013 Audi A4 2.0T Quattro Prem Plus / Sport [schindy]
by Car_man HOST
Oct 10, 2012 (3:23 pm)
You're very welcome schindy. You are being given a huge discount on this car. The selling price looks good to me.
Having said that, a few thoughts:
First you would be better off going with a zero down lease, i.e. not paying a capitalized cost reduction out of pocket at signing. I always advise consumers not to make large down payments on leased vehicles. Consumers who put money down on leases risk losing part or all of the money that they laid out if their car is totaled in an accident or stolen and never recovered. Even though it means that you monthly payment will be slightly higher, it's safer to go with a zero down lease.
Also, mak sure that the dealer uses Audi Financial Services' current buy rate lease money factor of .00114 to calculate your car's payment (top credit tier). With such a low selling price they may be looking to mark your car's money factor up for back-end profit.
I'm not sure if Audi Connect can be pre-paid.
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#4173 of 4290 October 2012 - MF and RV
by garakl
Oct 11, 2012 (11:34 am)
Dear Car_man,
What are MF and RV with 48mo lease with 10,000 and 12,000 miles in October ?
Thank you!
#4174 of 4290 Help Evaluating My Lease Deal - A4
by ssparger
Oct 12, 2012 (10:49 am)
this car: http://www.universityaudi.com/new/Audi/2013-Audi-A4-47494ea50a0d048e0094de984320- 93ac.htm
less the navigation but with added wood inserts - MSRP on mine was $42,170
SALE PRICE $40,170
TOTAL CAP COST $40170
TOTAL CC REDUCT $4113
TRADE IN: $5000
ADJ CAP COST $36,057
MSRP $42,170
RES FACTOR 54%
RESIDUAL $22,771
MONTHLY BASE $464
MONTHLY TAX $43.18
MONTHLY PAYMENT $510
*gap, first maintenance, 5 year warranty
-$5000 down
-42 Months
-Top Credit
-10k Miles Per Year
#4175 of 4290 Dealer Fees, etc.
by stumc1
Oct 13, 2012 (5:17 am)
Other than tax/tag/title fees, should I expect to pay additional dealer fees (ie. $599 doc fee) or or is this just total crap? I'm trying to calculate a reasonable offer for a 2013 A4 Premium Plus and not sure if I should take these type of dealer fees into account. Has anybody been successful at not paying these fees or are they just a cost of buying the car?
Thanks.