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#3902 of 4289 Audi A4 Lease Negotiations and Contract Questions.
by missileman7
Nov 23, 2011 (7:42 am)
I am working on negotiating a lease on a 2012 Audi A4 Sedan 2.0T Premium quattro. It has the Prestige, Sport and S Line Packages. The MSRP is $47,055. I have excellent credit with a score around 795 and have so far talked the dealer down to a vehicle price of $43,998.
Based on the research I have seen on this site, I believe I should expect a Residual of 54% and a Money Factor of .00133. However, the dealer is claiming 53% and .0016.
Are they trying to get extra profit by not coming down and should I expect to be able to negotiate these to 54 and .0016?
In my current lease there is a charge labeled L&M for $527 that was added to the Gross Cap Cost. Can anyone tell me what this is? I know it's not the acquisition fee since it is itemized separately but can't remember what it was for.
Finally, I am in Texas and in my current lease don't see anything on the contract about taxes. The line for Taxes under Itemized Gross Cap Cost shows N/A and the Monthly Sales/Use Tax also shows N/A. I'm sure I have paid taxes somewhere but can't figure out where.
Any help to the above questions would be appreciated.
#3903 of 4289 buying or leasing finance information
by chiquita
Nov 25, 2011 (10:44 am)
Hi, and thank you
I need to compare buying a A4 or leasing. Can you provide the current buy rate through AFS for apr% rate if i bought a car . On other hand if leasing the MF and residual on a 2012 A4 prem plus for 36 mo and 15K ? do they offer 20K? (i need more miles, how does the MF and residual change) this is why i need to compare buying or leasing because of extra miles.
where do i apply loyalty if i am turning in a A4 lease? After i negotiate a price?
thank you so very much!!
#3904 of 4289 Re: A4 Prestige Lease Info [aal2012]
by Car_man HOST
Nov 28, 2011 (5:51 pm)
Here you go aal2012. Audi Financial Services' November buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36-month lease of a 2012 A4 Prestige Sedan quattro with 12,000 miles per year are .00133 and 53%, respectively for consumers who qualify for its top credit tier.
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#3905 of 4289 Re: A4 premium deal in NY [rbergmandc]
by Car_man HOST
Nov 28, 2011 (5:58 pm)
Thanks for the additional information rbergmandc. The selling price that you were quoted appears to be less than $1,000 over dealer invoice...perhaps $700 or so over invoice. That's a pretty good deal.
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#3906 of 4289 Re: Thanks for this thiread [jbrown7815]
by Car_man HOST
Nov 28, 2011 (6:00 pm)
Welcome jbrown7815. I'm glad that you are enjoying it. See you around!
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Nov 29, 2011 (8:17 pm)
Hi, and thank you Car Man and hosts!! any help is so much appreciated believe me!
I need to compare buying a A4 or leasing. Can you provide the current buy rate through AFS for apr% rate if i bought a car . On other hand if leasing the MF and residual on a 2012 A4 quattro prem plus for 36 mo and 15K ? do they offer 20K? (i need more miles, how does the MF and residual change) this is why i need to compare buying or leasing because of extra miles.
the dealer quoted a MF of 0.00159 for buy rate- I thought was higher than said here. resd=55%
For buying they quoted buy rate of 2.9% for 60 months- is that correct? I thought it was 1.9 and 2.4 % ?? please advise
where do i apply loyalty if i am turning in a A4 lease? After i negotiate a price?
thank you so very much!!
#3908 of 4289 Re: need help [chiquita]
by Car_man HOST
Dec 04, 2011 (4:28 pm)
Greetings chiquita. Audi Financial Services' current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36-month lease of a 2012 A4 Sedan Premium Plus quattro with 15,000 miles per year are .00133 and 55%, respectively for consumers who qualify for its top credit tier.
I don't believe that AFS publishes residual values for leases with 20,000 miles per year, but you should be able to pre-pay for additional miles at a discount for what you would have to pay as an excess mileage penalty at lease-end.
You're right about the finance rate, Audi is currently offering 1.9% for 60 months. It looks like the dealer might be trying to mark the rate up on you.
There's a $750 cash incentive for loyal customers on leases. Make sure to take this cash into account when negotiating your selling price.
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#3909 of 4289 Thank you car man
by chiquita
Dec 04, 2011 (9:09 pm)
I can not thank you enough car man, this is a live saver... You are so appreciated!
A question to all others.... What kind of price from invoice are yal able to get right now?
About three years ago I was offered 700 to 500 below invoice but do not know if it's the climate for that kind of deal right now ?
Do tell
Thank you again car man for everything
#3910 of 4289 2012 a4 quattro prem plus lease and single pay lease
by eric1492
Dec 07, 2011 (10:09 am)
Hi. question 1 offered a4, in nj...sticker 43150. selling price 39000, $750 down, 36 month,15,000 miles. no security deposit, mv fees 405, doc fees $269, Bank fee $625 Residual $23650 money factor if tier 1 was .00143 and if tier 2 .00147 (I agree that I am tier 2). they are saying lease b4 tax $471.41 or after tax $509.47. total fees (listed above) are $2565
question 2 ..same car and details
but I would prefer to pay single payment lease..same purchase price, tier 2 credit money factor .00147..how much should single payment be. they are stating $540 month x 35 months=18900 plus 1280 fees (bk fee $625,doc $269, MV $405, tire tax $7.5 = 20180 total
question 3 audi auto care..they say $800 4 yr miles 50,000 = $800...and they could reduce by $80 dlrs. worth it? or should price be lower?
question 4. what should extra lease miles cost, up front. per 1000 miles? (I probably want 50000 miles on 3 yr lease).
All in all looks like very good selling price, but then they are adding some back in via fees.
really like car and want to lease single payment. Your thoughts...good deal?
Many thanks!!
Eric1492
#3911 of 4289 2012 a4 quattro prem plus lease and single pay lease
by eric1492
Dec 07, 2011 (10:38 am)
Hi. question 1 offered a4, in nj...sticker 43150. selling price 39000, $750 down, 36 month,15,000 miles. no security deposit, mv fees 405, doc fees $269, Bank fee $625 Residual $23650 money factor if tier 1 was .00143 and if tier 2 .00147 (I agree that I am tier 2). they are saying lease b4 tax $471.41 or after tax $509.47. total fees (listed above) are $2565
question 2 ..same car and details
but I would prefer to pay single payment lease..same purchase price, tier 2 credit money factor .00147..how much should single payment be. they are stating $540 month x 35 months=18900 plus 1280 fees (bk fee $625,doc $269, MV $405, tire tax $7.5 = 20180 total
question 3 audi auto care..they say $800 4 yr miles 50,000 = $800...and they could reduce by $80 dlrs. worth it? or should price be lower?
question 4. what should extra lease miles cost, up front. per 1000 miles? (I probably want 50000 miles on 3 yr lease).
All in all looks like very good selling price, but then they are adding some back in via fees.
really like car and want to lease single payment. Your thoughts...good deal?
Many thanks!!
Eric1492