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Re: **casanova2*** [casanova2] by yammers
Dec 22, 2005 (1:42 pm)
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Replying to: casanova2 (Dec 20, 2005 6:20 am)

MSRP = $35385
Selling price = $34025
Audi money factor = .00139
Residual for 12k = 74%
 
Yes, there is 10% sales tax in PA
 
I used the lease calculator and it turned out to be $450.
 
He offered me $449 a month for 24 mo for 12k ....
 
Is this right? is this a good deal? as good as it gets? did i miscalculate?
 
Amy
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Re: **casanova2*** [casanova2] by lamusic
Dec 22, 2005 (3:59 pm)
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Replying to: casanova2 (Dec 20, 2005 6:20 am)

Casanova2,
 
I am new to leasing, and something you said struck me as interesting: Why don't you want the dealer to know that you know what the base MF is? Once they give you the selling price you want, why wouldn't you demand the base MF and the highest residual?
 
Thanks!
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Re: **casanova2*** [yammers] by casanova2
Dec 23, 2005 (9:50 am)
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Replying to: yammers (Dec 22, 2005 1:42 pm)

Your deal looks good to me. I hate your tax situation but it's kinda hard to argue with the PA government.
 
I would check your residual. For the 2.0T Quattro for 12k/yr it should be 75%, not 74%. I do not have numbers for other models but if you post exactly which car you're after then I'm sure someone here could comment.
 
Your selling price looks good - $1,360 under invoice. I'd say you've done well. Make sure they're not quoting you a 2005.5 model!
 
Other than that you look on the money. Your money factor is fine and you could also ask about MSDs. I calculate the return on MSDs to be just over 14%, very good indeed. MSDs are fully refundable and if you can put the cash up you can save real money and make it work hard too. Good deal all round.
 
Enjoy, seems like you've got good numbers except for the residual.
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Re: **casanova2*** [lamusic] by casanova2
Dec 23, 2005 (9:53 am)
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Replying to: lamusic (Dec 22, 2005 3:59 pm)

I have dealt with enough car dealers to know that not all of them are honest, upstanding citizens - many are, but not all. By not revealing that you know the MF, you can find out whether the dealer is playing with you and, potentially, just walk away. If you KNOW that Audi finance is charging 0.00139 and your dealer offers 0.00150, something's wrong. Now some dealers use other financing outlets, not always Audi, so that could account for it, but unless you've got some idea of the game you're playing you risk being played yourself.
 
I'm all for negotiating fairly and in the case of a car purchase/lease I believe the buyer should be the one that comes out feeling good, the car dealer always makes money regardless of the BS he feeds you.
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Re: **casanova2*** [casanova2] by yammers
Dec 23, 2005 (9:57 am)
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Replying to: casanova2 (Dec 23, 2005 9:50 am)

thanks for your response! i will check with the dealership
 
can you help me understand what MSD's are and how I can save money by using one?
 
Thanks!
 
Amy
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Re: **casanova2*** [casanova2] by lamusic
Dec 23, 2005 (10:37 am)
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Replying to: casanova2 (Dec 23, 2005 9:53 am)

Thanks, Casanova2! I understand and agree....
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A4 2.0L 4cyl Turbo CVT 24 month lease by barut77
Dec 23, 2005 (4:24 pm)
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Hello Everybody,
I just made a deposit for A4 2.0L Turbo CVT with
Sunroof Package
Dophin Gray Metallic Color
 
The MSRP runs for $31,710.
 
Here's the deal I got:
24 months 12K/year
Selling Price: $30320 (
I got $1390 off the sticker since I originally asked for a Black w/ prm. package)
Money Factor: 0.00127
Residual: 74%
Will pay:$3338 (1st month lease + about 1338 inception + 2000 dwnpymnt)
Monthly Payment: 287 + 7% (miami-dade tax) = $307 per month
 
I realize that you usually discuss a 75 percent residual for 24k for 24 months. But the money factor was .00127
 
Do you think the dealer is giving me a good deal with these figures?
My first option was to get a black A4 2.0L Turbo CVT with premium package+sunroof. Which had a MSRP of $32810. They offered me a deal for $298 + tax for the same dwnpayment and inception terms. But they would not have black before end of JAN 2006. So they could not promise to honor the same terms at that date?
 
Any suggestions? Should I take what I am being offered?
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Re: A4 2.0L 4cyl Turbo CVT 24 month lease [barut77] by casanova2
Dec 23, 2005 (6:50 pm)
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Replying to: barut77 (Dec 23, 2005 4:24 pm)

My advice: don't even think of placing a $2,000 downpayment. Use the same money instead as multiple security deposits (MSDs) that have the effect of reducing the money factor. Big difference - MSDs are refundable, downpayment is not. Plus MSDs "work" for you in the financial sense; you should see a 15% virtual return on your MSD money, you get none whatsoever on downpayment cash.
 
Your MF is otherwise good - better than the 0.00139 that Audi is offering. Residual might be different for CVTs than for Quattro I suspect but maybe the dealer gave up something with the lower MF and took with the lower residual? You should ask. The Audi web site will have the residual value for the 10,000 mile/yr deal, subtract 1% to get the 12,000 mile/yr deal.
 
Obviously when you factor out your downpayment your lease payment is going to rise but don't be fooled - you're doing yourself a financial favor. Go the MSD route.
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A4 1.8 Cabriolet MF and Residual by indy_driver
Dec 24, 2005 (12:50 am)
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Hi Car_Man,
  
Can you please tell us the December MF and residual for the 2006 A4 1.8 Cabriolet on the 24-month and 36 month leases at 10k per year?
 
One dealer is quoting 0.0026 which seems quite a bit higher than the going rate of 0.00139 on the A4 sedans.
 
Thanks !
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Re: A4 1.8 Cabriolet MF and Residual [indy_driver] by rjlaero
Dec 26, 2005 (7:01 am)
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Replying to: indy_driver (Dec 24, 2005 12:50 am)

Cab's are a totally different situation. Audi is really pushing the A4 sedans with the lease special, but there are no special money factors or interest rates on the convertibles right now.

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