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Prices Paid: Buying & Leasing Experiences Audi A4 Lease Questions
3123 messages, Last post on Nov 10, 2009 at 6:11 PM
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HI all, thanks for your help I have been to 1 dealer only and have only 2 days left to end of year deals. Dealer 1 gave me "Invoice" price for a lease. Can I do better? "how" much better?? I told them I saw up to 2k below on this forum and they said they wouldnt be in business. Also- I am confused as to the real residual values-- charts posted on various car forums list it a bit lower than what I see here. also- if you calculate sample lease from Audi website with their numbers in the Ad- it comes to a residual of about 58% for a 2.0 quattro- which is much higher than the published charts. I got a quote yesterday of a 55% residual for premium and 53% for prem plus for a 15k/36mo. Car-man- or anyone else-- can you provide any insight to the real #'s ? thanks SOOOO much-- hurry i only have 2 days left!! 
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Replying to: urbanaudi (Dec 30, 2008 10:19 am) I am in the same predicament and I am hustling to get an Avant before Jan 2nd (though the 1st payment on a lease doesn't amount to too much). I am emailing dealerships and negotiating 2k below invoice for Prem Plus Avant! I know that sounds unrealistic but hey, you never know! Anyway, I am a noob when it comes to leases, and I gather from your post that I should inquire about the residual percentage. I thought that was fixed but apparently you are finding various numbers. Please share in this forum when you find the 'correct' number or score your new audi with all the details! |
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Replying to: urbanaudi (Dec 30, 2008 10:19 am) I just agreed on pricing on an Audi 2.0 Quattro premium package. I got slightly below dealer invoice. I then added on the Audi Care which was another $690. However, it also increases the Residual by 1%. The residual for a 36 mo with 15K miles is 55%. With the Audi Care, it is 56%. The MSRP on the car was $35440 (plus $690 for Audi Care). The Selling Price was $32910 (plus $690 for Audi Care). Then they added on $625 Acquisition Fee, Tax and Title. I live in Ohio so I'm not sure how these will translate to other parts of the country. I spoke to 4 different dealers and this was the best pricing I negotiated. NA_Mom |
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Replying to: urbanaudi (Dec 30, 2008 10:19 am) MSRP: 38400 Purchase Price: 35200 Residual: 53 0 Money Down First payment by Audi Audi Care Included for free (650.00 value) 42 Months 15k Miles Monthly with Tax: 536
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Replying to: members78 (Dec 30, 2008 10:36 am) for your Avant- I saw this info from Carman a few pages back: "Audi Financial Services' current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2009 Audi A4 2.0T Avant Premium Plus with 15,000 miles per year are .00202 and 52%, respectively." that may help you know the details. another quote from Carman a few pages back: "Audi Financial Services' current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of an '09 A4 2.0T Sedan Premium with quattro and 12,000 miles per year are .00169 and 57%, respectively. The numbers for an otherwise identical lease of a Premium Plus are .00169 and 55%. " I suppose my quote of 53% on a 15K (Prem plus) accounts for the extra miles and might be right on track? What i dont understand is the Season of Audi event Ads -- which if you calculate their numbers the resdiual seems higher. 2K under Invoice seems impossible-- but hey thats great and you never know I guess. They also told me I can not get Loyalty cash-- and I am turning in a 2006 Lease.? This seems not right to me-- It would seem to me I have been loyal. They said it was only for 2007 leases. I dont know if this is incorrect. thanks for all the input! 
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Replying to: urbanaudi (Dec 30, 2008 11:45 am) And yes I know 2k below invoice is a lot, but I've been following the price trend for several cars, and the savings just keep getting bigger and bigger as the economy gets dimmer! So I'm going to push the envelope - maybe the CA is looking to dump a certain # of Avants before the new year NO MATTER WHAT? Who knows? In any event, keep us updated as I shall and I wish you a very low price for your new beautiful baby audi. 
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Replying to: members78 (Dec 30, 2008 12:45 pm) BTW- I currently lease an Avant and it is before the style change. I LOVE it. I kinda like the old style. Its sweet. I wish i could keep it but i do not think it makes sense to buy it because my residual was very high (77%) and that is what you want in a lease-- but not good to buy at lease end. bo-hoo. NOW- even tho i love my Avant-- the lease specials this time around favor the low-end A4 sedan. I might have to settle for a lesser sedan and not get another Avant. I am sure you will love yours. |
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I understand that it is better to avoid any down payment for lease deals. Does that also apply for title, tag and license fees and Audicare fees? By paying off these fees upfront don't we avoid paying finance charge and sales tax that is rolled into the monthly lease amount? A response is much appreciated! |
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I have negotiated a selling price of $32,500 for a A4 2.0 quattro prem plus with 10k miles on a 36 mo lease deal. Only hitch is that dealer doesn't have the car I want in phantom black. They told me the car is on transit and would arrive at dealer lot by the Jan end. That works fine as I'd be out of the country for most of Jan anyways. However dealer wants a security deposit of $1000 and they would give me the selling price in writing. But the money factor and residual would be based on new rate for Jan. While I think the price is right, I'm afraid I'd lose my leverage and even if I don't like the money factor or residual being offered by the dealer I may not have a choice but to accept the lease (the deposit is refundable only after they sell the car to someone else in case I refuse to take the deal). In addition they told me that they would waive any down payment requirement (except first month payment) that may be in place in Jan. Is it even possible to waive the down payment requirement unless Audi has a deal similar to current season of Audi A4 lease deal with 0 down? Should I pay the $1000 security deposit to lock in $32.5k price knowing the danger of nasty surprises with money factor or residual or should I refuse this deal and take my chances in Jan end and negotiate a fresh deal after I get back in town? Any advice is much appreciated!
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Replying to: jd25 (Dec 30, 2008 10:02 pm) If you wait- and the special changes- at least you will still have 1000 to put down if you have to? Can i ask- your $32,500.... how much of a deal is that? how much from msrp or invoice is that? I would be interested to know what deals are going on thanks and good luck
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