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2009 Avant offers by jdeluxe
Nov 24, 2008 (12:34 pm)
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I'm ending a 36-mo Premier Purchase on a 2006 Audi 2.0 black, black leather interior, sunroof, 22,000 miles, excellent condition. Haggling with local dealer about turning it in to them and getting into a 2009 A4 Avant Premier Purchase, but the numbers sound fishy to me.
 
2009 A4 Avant Prestige
$42,125 ($1,000 off MSRP)
36 mos
10,000 miles/yr
$1,500 loyalty rebate
$648.02/mo (no tax in OR)
(Don't have MF or Residual, but hoping to get that today.)
 
Our A4 Sedan is worth about $24,757 certified used. We owe $20,167 and they offered to make our last payment of $570.
 
The Avants available in OR are slim pickings, but I still think they ought to be able to make a better offer than this.
 
What we wanted was a black Premier Plus (which they said would be about $587/mo), but they don't have one in stock and nothing coming. Only silver. I haven't haggled in 3 years and could use your help with how to tackle this and what ballpark is feasible.
 
Thanks!
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Audi Lease rates for Nov. 2008 by santafe7
Nov 24, 2008 (3:21 pm)
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These are supposed to be the correct Audi rates. Any confirmation?
http://www.teamspeed.com/forums/auto-leasing-financing/13241-audi-auto-lease-rat- es-november-2008-a.html
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A4 Pre Plus for $485 by mariuszka
Nov 24, 2008 (3:40 pm)
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Can anyone tell me if this is good?
I'm turing in my old 07 A4 for
 
09 A4 Prem Plus Quart
36m / 15k
485 down + taxes + fees = $2854.26 at signing
$485.01 a month
 
Thank you
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Re: A4 quattro lease ready to expire [woody50] by Car_man HOST
Nov 25, 2008 (2:39 am)
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Replying to: woody50 (Nov 20, 2008 6:55 pm)

Thanks for stopping back to let us know how you liked your ride, woody50. I'm glad that you enjoyed it.
 
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Re: Once again [santafe7] by Car_man HOST
Nov 25, 2008 (2:43 am)
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Replying to: santafe7 (Nov 23, 2008 6:23 pm)

Hi santafe7. The money factor that you were quotes is way too high. Audi Financial Services' current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2009 A4 2.0 Avant Prestige with 10,000 miles per year are .00202 and 52%. Of course, the fact that you ordered your car hurts your negotiating position and the fact that this is the only Audi dealer in your state hurts it even more. The dealer is clearly marking your car's money factor up to add hidden profit to your deal. The question is whether you can convince them not to.
 
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Re: Purchase at end of lease [megsf] by Car_man HOST
Nov 25, 2008 (2:51 am)
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Replying to: megsf (Nov 24, 2008 10:41 am)

Hi Meg. The market for used vehicles, even good ones like the A4, has absolutely imploded. It's so bad that many dealers are refusing to take trade-ins because the value of the vehicles that they take in is falling so quickly that they are almost guaranteed to lose money on them. The end-of-term purchase option prices for leases that are ending now were established during a different market. I suspect that at least 90% of them are higher than the actual market values of equivalent used vehicles right now.
 
I personally probably wouldn't exercise my purchase option on a leased vehicle at this point, but it might be worth it to try to negotiate with AFS again. Some times consumers who are shut down in their initial attempt to negotiate their vehicles' purchase prices have better luck if they work their way up the ladder to a manager. Give it a shot, you don't have anything to lose.
 
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Re: A4 Pre Plus for $485 [mariuszka] by Car_man HOST
Nov 25, 2008 (2:55 am)
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Replying to: mariuszka (Nov 24, 2008 3:40 pm)

Hi mariuszka. The selling prices of leased vehicles are negotiable, just as if you were paying cash for or financing them. The best way to evaluate this deal is to look at its selling price in relation to its MSRP or its dealer invoice price. This will show you how much of a dealer discount you are being given. Let us know what these numbers are and either myself or another helpful community member will be happy to give you their opinion on this deal.
 
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Need leasing advice by jdeluxe
Nov 25, 2008 (10:08 am)
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Hi Car man or anyone who can help me.
 
I have more info and a new price on a new lease for an 09 Avant Quattro Prestige:
 
MSRP: $43,125
Invoice: $41,757
Selling Price: $42,000 ($40,500 minus $1,500 loyalty rebate)
Acquisition Fee: $625
Res Value: $20,700
Money Factor .00222
Terms: 10K/42 mos
1st month paid on new loan, last month paid on current lease ($570.03)
 
They're telling me it's $623.56/mo. Really wanted to spend less money and stick with the Prem Plus, but can't find one in OR. If I try WA, I pay sales tax.
 
Thanks for any help...
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Thanks Car Man by santafe7
Nov 25, 2008 (10:38 am)
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Your info helped me convince my dealer to use the lower lease MF and save me several thousand dollars. They just said "we were exercising our right to advance the deal in our favor"!
 
When will December rates be available? The car will probably arrive at the dealership after the end of Nov.
 
Thanks again.
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closing my lease deal need advice by bobrob1
Nov 25, 2008 (1:17 pm)
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I will be turning in my A4 I ordered a 09 A4 3.2 S-line Here is the deal I have from my dealer on my new lease. Is this a good deal ?Thanks For the help. did get the $1500.off for summer event.
 
MSRP: $49,550
LEV% 47%
Residual: $23,288.50
Adj. Cap. Cost $43,864.25
Lease Factor: 0.00210
Base Pay $630.92
Tax: $58.68
Total Pay $689.60
Down: $6000 ($4,500 from you and $1,500 from Audi)

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