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Premium Plus w/ Sport Package by omszz
Nov 14, 2008 (8:16 am)
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I just signed yesterday for Premium Plus + Sport Package + Meteor Gray paint.
 
Here are the numbers I got:
 
Lease: 3yr / 36,000 miles
MSRP: $39450
Invoice: $36700 (debatable, dealer says its close to $37000)
Sale Price: $37000
Acquisition Fee: $625
Audi Care: $650 (rolled into cap cost)
Cap Reduction (owner loyalty): $1500
Net Cap Cost: $36725
Residual: .56 (due to Audi Care)
Money Factor: .00169
Downpayment: $499 to cover licensing, up front taxes, $50 doc fee
 
Payment: $505 + taxes
Dealer makes 1st months payment
 
I believe the dealer made $625 profit on the aquisition fee, but other than that, it seems like the price of the car is close to invoice. Edmunds invoice lists $36700, but the dealer showed me a higher invoice price which had advertising fee and one other small item that Audi charges the dealer. His contention was invoice is right around $37000 for Premium Plus + Sport Package + Meteor Gray paint.
 
They also took my existing lease back early so we didn't have to make the last payment on it.
 
Not a killer deal, but the $1500 incentive and 1st months payment made it worth it in my mind.
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Bay Area Audi deals MIA by dilbertic
Nov 14, 2008 (11:28 am)
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I checked the Audi Bay Area website again for deals and it seems that all the linkable text is missing? Wonder if they are rewording or adding more models to the deals?
 
Dil
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Re: 2.0 T Premium Plus [webba] by twodomes
Nov 14, 2008 (11:44 am)
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Replying to: webba (Nov 14, 2008 7:21 am)

I dont understand how youre getting offered a residual that's 2 percent higher than everyone else. I think you should run with it, but the sale price should be at invoice, at least thats what it is here in LA. Also, I called Audi and they are paying the first month's payment but the acq fee, ttl are being rolled into leases to make it a sign and drive event.
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Clarification on $1500 loyalty cash by atsenb
Nov 14, 2008 (4:04 pm)
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Can someone clarify the $1500 loyalty cash? e.g. does it effectively do one of the following in the leasing calculation or does it do something else?
 
1) Loyalty cash lowers the sales price (or the adjusted cap cost) so that you don't pay tax on this amount
2) Loyalty cash does not lower the adjusted cap cost, so you would effectively treat it as a "rebate" or can apply it towards the downpayment (in which case, you would pay tax on this amount).
 
I currently have a lease on a 2007 A4, paying $450.52, I think lease termination charge is about $650 (does anyone have the exact number)? And if I lease another Audi, does this mean that I get BOTH the $1500 and also get to waive paying for the $650 lease termination charge??
 
Based on what others are saying about the current leasing program, if I am leasing a Premium + with 36m/10k (56% residual), msrp $38000, people seems to be targeting around invoice ($35,352 per edmunds, including destination charge), so if you add acquisition bank fee of approx. $625 and around $150-200 for doc and license, etc., you should be able to get the car for about $500-505 before taxes. Is that somewhat accurate?
 
Thanks in advance for answering my questions.
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Re: Clarification on $1500 loyalty cash [atsenb] by twodomes
Nov 14, 2008 (5:23 pm)
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Replying to: atsenb (Nov 14, 2008 4:04 pm)

my understanding from spending way too much time going back and forth with some sleazy salesmen today is that it's option #1. The lease end fee, or lease disposition fee, is $350, not $650 and IS combinable with the $1500.
 
Have you had your lease end inspection yet? I had minor scratches, rims with curb rash, and 2 tiny dents and have been charged $1370. Took it to 2 body shops who couldn't believe how they were trying to squeeze money out of me. Neither body shop could do the work for cheaper. They just questioned the necessity of having it done.
 
Feeling pretty anti-audi right now.
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A4 Lease too high? by jjthecat
Nov 14, 2008 (6:22 pm)
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Hello, I was wondering if anyone can tell me if this is a fair deal or I should walk. 2009 A4 Premium Plus, 36 month lease, 12,000 a year, $594+ aprx. $1364 start ups. He said the start ups are the transferring fee, taxes etc. He told me they pay the first month, waive security fee and offered me a $500 (coupon special) because I am getting rid of my BMW. I know you aren't supposed to put money down, but I need the monthly payments down (for various reasons) and he said $2000 down brings it to $534. I told him I need to make it less and he said $4000 down brings it to $434. Sales guy said the residual is 53% and the car's msrp is $37,800 or low $38,000. I would like to pull the trigger on Monday, but if this is not a good deal than I will walk. Also, does everyone have to pay the start ups because I had the understanding that part goes in the sales guy's pocket. I just want to make sure this is fair. The sales guy seemed nice and said he will do whatever it takes to work with me. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thank you.
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Re: A4 Lease too high? [jjthecat] by goneflyn
Nov 14, 2008 (8:19 pm)
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Replying to: jjthecat (Nov 14, 2008 6:22 pm)

Depends where you are located, but seems kind of high. Should be able to get them now at invoice or few hundred over. In NY/NJ area, I got quote for A4 Avant with Prem+, 36mon and 15K mi for $595 including 7% NJ tax. Up front fees ~$1200 (1pymt, reg/title, doc fees). I believe the new plan for November, Audi pays the 1st pymt, so upfront should be ~$600.
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Re: A4 Lease too high? [goneflyn] by jjthecat
Nov 14, 2008 (8:38 pm)
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Replying to: goneflyn (Nov 14, 2008 8:19 pm)

Thanks for your thoughts. And I am located in Michigan.
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Bad, Bad, Bad......... by carnuts3
Nov 15, 2008 (9:33 am)
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Had a bad Audi exp this week....Dealer invited me in for a deal - told me that they would payoff out my current lease so that I can get into a new car. They had the nerve to begin by offering me $2,000 under the dealer payoff amount on my current lease, telling me that there were a few (total $500) scratches that needed to be fixed. When I balked, telling them that I was there at their request not mine, they reluctantly credited me the full payoff amount. BTW, even at the full payoff amount, the same car is retailing locally for $6,000 over this amount. Then they wanted to charge me $1,400 for what I considered excessive up fees ( upfront fees for my recent BMW lease was only $1.100). Then I discovered that I wasn't eligible for the current $1,500 customer loyalty bonus because my current lease "maturity date" fell outside of the 1/5/09 deadline. Even though my lease would be paid off in full months early and Audi would not have to pick up any of my remaining lease payments Audi determined that I wasn't a loyal enough customer for them at this time. After all of this I abruptly cancelled the deal and ran like hell. Not a good experience.

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