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Re: Miscellaneous Dealer Fees [jkozlow3] by jescue
Nov 08, 2008 (5:22 am)
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Replying to: jkozlow3 (Nov 07, 2008 5:21 pm)

The advertising fee and $195 prep fee are legitimate fees from Audi. The rest are documentation or other dealer fees. These are profit so just consider them as such in your offers.
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by twodomes
Nov 08, 2008 (1:16 pm)
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when i leased my audi in late 06, there was no advertising or dealer prep fee. has that changed jescue?
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Re: [twodomes] by jescue
Nov 08, 2008 (1:59 pm)
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Replying to: twodomes (Nov 08, 2008 1:16 pm)

these are invoice items, not MSRP. The advertising varies by region. We do not have an ad fee because we are not in a major market. The prep/inspection fee has been on there as long as I can remember.
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help! low sale price vs. mf by chiaudiguy
Nov 10, 2008 (9:40 pm)
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hey carman (or anybody)! i've got a fairly urgent question.
 
i'm in the chicago area with a fair number of dealerships, so i whipped around
the same email to about 8 dealerships, re: a4 2.0T quattro premium plus, MSRP $38000.
 
most of them had similar sale prices, around $36000. for a 36 month lease, 15K with no money down (plus chicago taxes), i was being quoted monthly payments of about $700/month (ouch.) they were using the posted MF 0.00171 and audicare residual of 56%.
 
however, i had one dealer who is offering me monthly payments much less, about $625, similar taxes included. when i pressed for the sale price and money factor, he replied that they could offer a much lower price because they were a wholesaler, for basically $34169. but his money factor was a whopping 0.00219. same audicare residual of 56%.
 
when i mentioned feeling strange paying this inflated MF, his reply was that he was pretty confident that even with the higher money factor, his deal was the best. his quote: "do you want the lower money factor or lower monthly payment?"
 
truth is, he's right. his is the best deal. and i'm having a hard time arguing his point. but it does feel strange. should i just take it? (or am i missing something...)
 
[he's also pressing for me to close this deal before the new MF kick in, citing some new 5-tiered credit score based MF coming out. but i've seen a link that the "general" MF will be less at 0.00169. i'm not sure how this would effect this dealers MF.]
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Re: help! low sale price vs. mf [chiaudiguy] by cdepaola
Nov 11, 2008 (2:45 am)
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Replying to: chiaudiguy (Nov 10, 2008 9:40 pm)

Howdy... Just got my A4 2.0 Premium Plus at Continental in Naperville and I can tell you I secured a better deal then $625. I'm about 30 cheaper. That's no money down other then first and plates, plus audi care.
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Re: help! low sale price vs. mf [chiaudiguy] by cdepaola
Nov 11, 2008 (2:49 am)
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Replying to: chiaudiguy (Nov 10, 2008 9:40 pm)

Sorry that was also 12000 miles which would as very slightly. So the 625.00 is going to be very close. But should be able to get a bit lower still by a few bucks. Continental and audi in Orland are making the best deals.
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Re: help! low sale price vs. mf [chiaudiguy] by cdepaola
Nov 11, 2008 (3:20 am)
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Replying to: chiaudiguy (Nov 10, 2008 9:40 pm)

Sorry for all the replies, first I was on my blackberry now I'm at a computer. So anyway, your deal looks very close to the one I secured on the same vehicle. In a No Money Down lease I personally wouldn't worry about the MF as much, unless it is grossly high in comparison and the MF's you've listed do not look grossly different.
 
It obviously all depends on your situation and if you can walk away from one dealer or another. But I'd tell the dealer to add Audi Care if you haven't already and make the payment $600.00 and see if he can match it. The dealers I mentioned above are very willing to deal and I was easily able to play each against each other. The only thing that may make it different now is that I got one of the first to hit the lot and apparently now they are selling rather well. Either way it looks like you got a very good deal!
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Re: help! low sale price vs. mf [chiaudiguy] by jkozlow3
Nov 11, 2008 (6:55 am)
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Replying to: chiaudiguy (Nov 10, 2008 9:40 pm)

Chiaudiguy,
 
Going from a money factor of .00171 to .00219 will raise your total expenditure over a 3 year period by approximately $1000 - all things being equal. Use any of the several lease calculators online to verify this. You should be able to easily compare your quotes to see which plan is more favorable.
 
IMO, A good deal on a Premium Plus means that your TOTAL pre-tax payments over a 36 month period, 15k/yr come to:
 
$18500 or less without Audi Care
$18900 or less with Audi Care (residual is 1% higher)
 
The above numbers do not include any taxes, tags, title fees, security deposit, etc. They are only the total of all pre-tax payments that go to Audi. The security deposit is refundable, so I don't tend to include that in my calculations.
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Re: help! low sale price vs. mf [cdepaola] by chiaudiguy
Nov 11, 2008 (8:34 am)
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Replying to: cdepaola (Nov 11, 2008 3:20 am)

i think we're working with the same dealer, and now the same numbers.
i just asked him to re-do the numbers for 12K, and i'm getting $604/month.
 
is this similar to what you got?!
 
thanks.
 
ps- any opinion on waiting until tomorrow? the official MF is to drop to 0.00169 from 0.00171. not sure if their "house" MF will do the same.
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Re: help! low sale price vs. mf [chiaudiguy] by jkozlow3
Nov 11, 2008 (8:47 am)
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Replying to: chiaudiguy (Nov 11, 2008 8:34 am)

You really should be focusing on total cap cost and total pre-tax cost over 36 months instead of monthly payments. There are way too many variables when people try to compare monthly payments (whether tax is included, how much was due at signing, etc).
 
You can EASILY get the Premium Plus for a total cap cost of under $36,000 including the acquisition fee (without Audi Care).
 
The difference between .00171 and .00169 is next to nothing. Unless the residual changes for the better as well, there is no advantage in waiting. Where did you find your new MF numbers? Have you heard anything about the residual changing?

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