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Prices Paid: Buying & Leasing Experiences Audi A4 Lease Questions
3121 messages, Last post on Nov 09, 2009 at 4:26 PM
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Replying to: jescue (Nov 07, 2008 6:01 am) where are you located? and what is the agreed upon sales price for the audi. many have been paying just above or just below invoice recently depending on the part of the country. you might have a little room to negotiate the price based on the numbers you suggested and this will get your down payment cut substantially. and it does make sense to roll in the audi care if you want to compare apples to apples. |
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Replying to: Car_man (Oct 29, 2008 3:16 pm) I am willing to sell you the car for $53,385 and it has an MSRP of $64,225. The residual is 46% and the money factor is .00300. These are all set by US Bank, which has the cheapest leasing rates for this car. With all these factors your monthly payment would be $975 including tax. Do these numbers seem right to you? I knew the residual would be lower since it's an '08 and they're not making the S4 in '09. But is that money factor right? $975 seems crazy . . .
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Replying to: sdseagles (Nov 07, 2008 8:34 am) don't know what part of the county you are in but there are 2009 s4 being sold. they have the 4.2 v8 and not the superchared 3.0 that will be on the 2010. i got the following afs rates from lease compare for 2009 models: 2009 Audi S4 6-Speed Cabriolet 24 Month – Residual 62% of MSRP – .00304 Base Rate 36 Month – Residual 54% of MSRP – .00304 Base Rate 48 Month – Residual 43% of MSRP – .00324 Base Rate 2009 Audi S4 Tiptronic Cabriolet 24 Month – Residual 62% of MSRP – .00304 Base Rate 36 Month – Residual 54% of MSRP – .00304 Base Rate 48 Month – Residual 43% of MSRP – .00324 Base Rate your cap cost will be higher for 2009 but so will your residual. |
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Car man (or anyone who may know), I've started my preliminary shopping and am getting quotes of $400-500 over invoice here in Colorado. However, I am also getting quoted with expensive miscellaneous dealer fees. Dealer #1 - $489 dealer handling fee (non-negotiable) Dealer #2 - $185.88 adverting fee, $195 prep/inspection fee & $183.44 service department pre-delivery inspection fee. Grand total of dealer fees = $564. Dealer #2 even emailed me a PDF copy of their invoice showing the first 2 fees mentioned. My question is, do these $500 of additional fees seem normal? Is there a way to get the car for $0 over the "regular" Edmunds invoice and still have the dealer make a profit once you factor in these fees (as Audi does not offer dealer holdback)? Are these non-negotiable fees simply there to boost the dealer's profit and make it appear that you are getting a good deal if you negotiate down to invoice, or are they actually legit? Basically, can I do better than $500 over Edmunds invoice + $500 in dealer fees? Thanks so much!
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Replying to: jkozlow3 (Nov 07, 2008 5:21 pm) |
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when i leased my audi in late 06, there was no advertising or dealer prep fee. has that changed jescue?
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Replying to: twodomes (Nov 08, 2008 1:16 pm) |
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hey carman (or anybody)! i've got a fairly urgent question. i'm in the chicago area with a fair number of dealerships, so i whipped around the same email to about 8 dealerships, re: a4 2.0T quattro premium plus, MSRP $38000. most of them had similar sale prices, around $36000. for a 36 month lease, 15K with no money down (plus chicago taxes), i was being quoted monthly payments of about $700/month (ouch.) they were using the posted MF 0.00171 and audicare residual of 56%. however, i had one dealer who is offering me monthly payments much less, about $625, similar taxes included. when i pressed for the sale price and money factor, he replied that they could offer a much lower price because they were a wholesaler, for basically $34169. but his money factor was a whopping 0.00219. same audicare residual of 56%. when i mentioned feeling strange paying this inflated MF, his reply was that he was pretty confident that even with the higher money factor, his deal was the best. his quote: "do you want the lower money factor or lower monthly payment?" truth is, he's right. his is the best deal. and i'm having a hard time arguing his point. but it does feel strange. should i just take it? (or am i missing something...) [he's also pressing for me to close this deal before the new MF kick in, citing some new 5-tiered credit score based MF coming out. but i've seen a link that the "general" MF will be less at 0.00169. i'm not sure how this would effect this dealers MF.] |
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Replying to: chiaudiguy (Nov 10, 2008 9:40 pm) |
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Replying to: chiaudiguy (Nov 10, 2008 9:40 pm) |
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