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Replying to: jackforette (May 17, 2008 8:05 am) I don't believe any of the Audi salespersons here have tried to hide their profession, or pose as a customer. Though customers and dealers have opposite hopes on the transaction price of a vehicle, they both have the same goal: To complete the transaction. In our forums, we strive to treat everyone with respect. You may disagree with someone, but let's keep the comments factual and not personal. Regards, kyfdx Host-Prices Paid Forums
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Hello Carman & Kyfdx, Finally thought I had this all figured out but after driving an A4 Cabriolet for the first time today and loving it, we decided to do some research on the rates and incentives available for the Cab's. Is the $2,000 Conquest/Owner Loyalty cash back available in addition to the .00036 money factor and 55% residual (36m/10k miles) lease program?? The dealer stated the "sale" price is 500 under invoice but I'm having a hard time making the math work out. Here's the deal- am I doing good or am I just confused again: 44,600 msrp 41,624 "sale price" 1,000 title, tags, dealer prep 42,424 cap cost 0 cap cost reduction 24,530 residual (55%) .00036 m/f (.86% interest) first month payment only at signing 564 monthly payment including 7% sales tax Since we hadn't planned on buying a convertible we decided to come home and think it over. Looking at new car pricing on Edmunds I see the same car with an msrp of $44,600 should have invoice of $41,533. If they were 500 under invoice then the sales price should be $41,033. With the $2,000 Conquest/Loyalty consumer incentive is 500 under invoice about the best I should hope for. Thanks to everyone for all their time trying to help out here! Rich
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Replying to: kyfdx (May 17, 2008 2:29 pm) This is a great forum for obtaining information, otherwise unavailable to the "Average Consumer," leaving us at a big disadvantage. It would be better if this type of information were more readily available so that we can be on the same playing field as the Dealer and salesperson. I would be willing to bet that there are only a very small percentage of buyers that actually utilize this forum. I know that it has helped me immensely in my recent lease/ purchases, to obtain "A FAIR DEAL." It's rare that you get that 'best Deal" and even though the salesperson or manager always says that " you stole the car from them" or that that "Dropped their pants" because the price is so cheap, the fact is they are still making a profit. Also for every savvy consumer that negotiates a "fair deal" there is at least one that doesn't. Even with all the information we get the Dealer still is in the drivers seat, because they have to agree to give you the deal that's "FAIR." Just because we know that there is a "$2,000 Dealer Incentive" (Conquest Loyalty) doesn't mean that they will reduce the price by $2,000 or any portion thereof. I recently leased a lexus IS250 where the MF was stated in this forum at .00020, however the dealer swore up and down that the best available was at .00050 which is still a very good deal but adds around $15 a month to the payment. However once you have been worn down which appears to be the dealers purpose it's just easier to take the deal rather than driving to another dealer for a better price and going back to have your local dealer meet the price Our only choice is to walk away and find a dealer that will. I prefer to deal with my local dealer rather than having to go out of the area, but generally the only way you will get your dealer to agree to a "FAIR DEAL" is to get a lower price elsewhere so that they will then "MEET THE PRICE" Somehow this seems like a lot of unnecessary work for the consumer as the dealer could have offered the fair deal price earlier, and avoided the hassle. Unfortunately it just doesn't work that way or at least not in my area and not with the local dealers. Bottom line is that the DEALER still has the upper hand, however with the help of this forum and Car_man and kyfdx, we can at least go into the deal armed with the information to help in the negotiations. So please lets keep these forums going and if there is a way they could be expanded to include more buyers that would be great. Car_Man / kyfdx please keep up your great work. gwarrenfl
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Hi, I am new to this forum and would like to start by thanking you for having this kind of help and info available to the consumer. I would like to know if my dealer is offering me a good deal. Here's what's on the table. A4 Special Edition AWD with bluetooth, convenience package and wood trim. $483month 36month lease. Audi pays first month. I pay DMV and SalesTax up front. Thanks for your help. John
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Sorry. Forgot to mention that the lease includes 15K miles per year.
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Replying to: bagelguy (May 18, 2008 8:40 pm) 2008 Audi A4 CVT MSRP $32,750 36 month lease 15k miles per year $0 down Taxes are in monthly payment Out of pocket Monthly payment of $375 (which includes AudiCare for 36 months) Hope this helps a bit.
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this is what i got and signed a contract on. it wasn't the best deal i could get, in the strictest sense of the word, but it wasn't out of the ballpark either. 2008 A4 SE 2.0T demo (1250 miles odometer) 36 mos 12K miles Convenience package Bluetooth audicare Auto trans MSRP $36,450 $0 cap cost reduction $470 inception fees (DMV, doc, tire tax) $423 per month (includes tax) They are also paying my last 2 payments on my lease ($860). they cut me check for the difference of this and the inception fees. I did get a quote for a brand new car with all the above plus ipod for the same price but it wasn’t a dealership. It was an independent auto sales co. but it was too far for me to pick up. I went from an intial quote of $455 per month and $1050 inception fees to the current one above. You most definitely can negotiate. Remember, the dealers give you an inflated price to begin with because of the expectation of negotiations. Good luck and don’t give up. Go to at least 4 different dealers for quotes |
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Replying to: bagelguy (May 18, 2008 7:04 pm) You need the MSRP, Invoice, Sale price, MF, Residual. |
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Hello Carman, Kyfdx or any other members, Could you tell me what the residual and the money factors are for the '08 A4 2.0 SE CVT with 12,000 miles & 36 months in the Los Angeles area? My bimmer's up for lease-end in a couple of weeks and I would like to venture into the realm of the Audis. A4 seems a good comparision to the 328is. Thanks in advance. ttangbee
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