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#1434 of 3145 Re: questions re: dealer fees and audi care program [glynis0916] by audihorse Jun 18, 2007 (7:01 am)
Replying to: glynis0916 (Jun 17, 2007 9:52 pm) The add on fees are something that Boston area dealers do, too - adding up to $495. Read the previous recent posts on this board for info. Negotiate to under invoice or tell the dealer you don't want to pay those fees and will go elsewhere. Although because every dealer in So Cal is in on these "invoice" add ons it might be easier to ignore the fees and just negotiate to the price you have in mind which should be invoice or below on an 07 (before the fees.) If I had it to do over I would have struck a better deal for myself and I did get my lease at invoice. At least in SoCal I think they go easy on doc fees $45? (for title, reg. etc.) - separate from this advertising/prep add on "invoice" fee. I made them throw in all weather mats and wagon mat to make up for that $300 doc fee in Boston area.   Audi Care is legit. Audi used to include free maintenance. Now they don't. If your lease is for 36 mos. get the Audi Care. And yes they will make you sign a doc saying you will use the Audi Care because they want to insure that their leased car will be maintained. Since you are paying for it it makes sense you would use it. But because it does bring residual up a point it is worth it.
#1435 of 3145 Re: questions re: dealer fees and audi care program [glynis0916] by rallyfan Jun 18, 2007 (8:54 pm)
Replying to: glynis0916 (Jun 17, 2007 9:52 pm) DID YOU LEASE THE A4 I WAS LOOKING INTO THE SAME CAR CAN YOU POST SOME OF THE NUMBERS DID YOU HAVE TO PUT THE 999 DOWN AND THE OTHER FEES THAT EQUAL APPR. 2300 DOLLARS I HEARD THE MAINTENCE FEE IS LEGIT AND A GOOD DEAL CONSDERING THEY CHARGE 100 DOLLARS FOR THE 10K OIL CHANGE AND SERVICE THANKS GOOD LUCK Replies to this message: glynis0916 (Jun 19, 2007 9:25 am)
#1436 of 3145 Re: Lease vs. Buy Conundrum [siman] by alex320 Jun 19, 2007 (7:16 am)
Replying to: siman (Jun 14, 2007 7:58 pm) Siman,   So what was the final downpayment and monthly payment you got from them? I'm thinking about taking the plunge soon but I want to know how much they try to add on. Did you ask them about more mileage and how much that would cost? I'm not sure I could get by on only 10k a year.
#1437 of 3145 Re: questions re: dealer fees and audi care program [rallyfan] by glynis0916 Jun 19, 2007 (9:25 am)
Replying to: rallyfan (Jun 18, 2007 8:54 pm) Well I don't have the numbers in front of me, but it definitely was less than $2,300. The only up front fees I remember are the acquisition fee, registration fee, and then potentially Audi Care, which I was hesitant at first, but now will probably do based on the posts here. I think it came out to around $1,300 or $1,400. I would never put any additional money down, and I'm sure others here agree, if you do you're just throwing it away when you lease. They always want you to put money down because it makes your monthly payments lower. You're never forced to put any money down unless your going through the Audi USA deals but I don't think the current one is all that great.   As I mentioned, I negotiated to invoice except it was really around $400 over with the ad and inspection fees. When I go to the next dealership this weekend, I'll just aim for $400 below invoice, that way if they throw in the fees it will come out to invoice.   MF is .00054 (no security deposit but previously financed through volkswagen so they gave me the better rate)   I didn't end up leasing because they were trying to rip me off on my trade-in but that's another story.
#1438 of 3145 Re: questions re: dealer fees and audi care program [glynis0916] by pinkertonfloyd Jun 21, 2007 (9:48 am)
Replying to: glynis0916 (Jun 17, 2007 9:52 pm) They *CANNOT* force Audi-Care on you. It is illegal.   (It's also a complete Rip-Off, as It *ONLY* covers 15K services (Mostly Oil Changes and a few Air Filters, No Brakes, or other items that Audi used to cover for free(!) Audi says you shoudl change the oil more under "severe service"... Right??? guess what... That's on YOUR dime, Audicare or NOT!   I just leased an A4 Cabrolet, and yes, the finance person pre-added AudiCare, and I pointed to have it removed. Magically, they dropped it and still leased the car. They only added that we can purchase it later if we change our mind, it'll be the same $590!... wow... amazing).   IT IS ILLEGAL FOR THEM TO FORCE YOU TO BUY SERVICE CONTRACTS... Google "Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act". That's Federal law, unless they want to do the service for free, they must allow you to have others service your car.   I called my local German Auto Repair (who works on my other Audi's that are no longer in Warranty), and found out that he will charge me, about $300 for the same work. He'll also validate the service book, no problems.   Funny is that my local dealer is famous for doing sloppy work. They use cheap Valvoline bulk-oil (not the VW-502 Rated Oil Audi states you must use). My local German Auto Service guy uses German Syntec (VW502 Rated), and a Mann or Maule Oil Filter (German OEM).... He charges a whole $50... out the door, tax and everything. He's got one Audi Trained tech that only works on Audi's and VW's. He's got another who just works on BMWs... no question on who worked on your car. Replies to this message: audihorse (Jun 21, 2007 10:08 am) glynis0916 (Jun 21, 2007 11:16 am) kyfdx (Jun 21, 2007 11:21 am) audihorse (Jun 21, 2007 4:33 pm)
#1439 of 3145 Re: questions re: dealer fees and audi care program [pinkertonfloyd] by audihorse Jun 21, 2007 (10:08 am)
Replying to: pinkertonfloyd (Jun 21, 2007 9:48 am) I don't think anyone here stated that Audi was "forcing" anyone to buy Audi Care. They increase the residual by one percentage point in a lease to make the $590 cost more palatable. In my case this meant Audi Care cost $209. They did ask me to sign a doc stating that I would get follow thru and get the car serviced at the requested intervals or pay a penalty of $400 - which I think is to cover them in case someone blew off oil changes, maintenance since it is leased car. But since you pay for it in advance you might as well take care of the car - even if you plan to turn it in at end of lease. The maintenance intervals are 5,000 (which is free, period) and then it is in 10k intervals, - so it is 15k, 25k, 35K, and 45k that is covered. Brakes are covered under warranty until 12k - but yes, the previous warranty was much more geneorus and maintenance was free for the length of warranty. They replaced many more wear and tear items, too, but now they only do that until 12k. Replies to this message: glynis0916 (Jun 21, 2007 11:16 am) kyfdx (Jun 21, 2007 11:21 am) audihorse (Jun 21, 2007 4:33 pm)
#1440 of 3145 Re: questions re: dealer fees and audi care program [audihorse] by glynis0916 Jun 21, 2007 (11:16 am)
Replying to: audihorse (Jun 21, 2007 10:08 am) Since I'm really bad at math can you confirm how you determine how much you save on Audi Care based on the one point residual increase: You take the difference between the residual value with Audi Care and without Audi Care, let's say that's $400. In that case you're really only paying $190 for the program? Replies to this message: kyfdx (Jun 21, 2007 11:21 am) audihorse (Jun 21, 2007 4:33 pm)
#1441 of 3145 Re: questions re: dealer fees and audi care program [glynis0916] by kyfdx HOST Jun 21, 2007 (11:21 am)
Replying to: glynis0916 (Jun 21, 2007 11:16 am) If you can negotiate a little bit off of the $590 cost, it might even be less than that.   If you plan on getting your car serviced at the dealer, it is a no-brainer for a 36 month lease.
#1442 of 3145 Re: questions re: dealer fees and audi care program [glynis0916] by audihorse Jun 21, 2007 (4:33 pm)
Replying to: glynis0916 (Jun 21, 2007 11:16 am) i will use an example: lets say the car is MSRP at 38,100. The residual is set by AFS on that months' program and is always based on MSRP regardless of the price you negotiate down to - those savings are attained within the leased portion of the car.   So at 51% residual of an MSRP of it is $19,431 and a bump up to 52% (with Audi Care) is $19,812. That saves you $381. or subtracted from the $590 it is $209 that you are paying for Audi Care. Not a bad deal.

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