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Re: Lease vs. Buy Conundrum [siman] by alex320
Jun 13, 2007 (6:31 am)
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Replying to: siman (Jun 11, 2007 7:14 pm)

Does anyone know if the special leasing ads in the classified sections are negotiable? Are dealerships flexible on say, adding more mileage for the same quoted price if you haggle with them or are those specials "as good as it gets"?
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Re: good grief [edwardsf] by audihorse
Jun 13, 2007 (7:16 am)
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Replying to: edwardsf (Jun 12, 2007 5:29 pm)

I had no problem with his explanations and tried before to interpret for some of you and I am sure this is waste of my time but here goes:
 
Contract with AFS and agreed terms is between you and them only - they only change the residual price if 3rd party attempts to buy car. No recourse as the contract is between you and them. He gets that. Not sure why you don't. He thinks it is a rather onerous position and less than customer friendly on AFS part to change the price if a 3rd party wants to buy and that would be convenient to you. Forces you to buy the car and pay tax before you re-sell. Which can be worked around in some states - just a hassle. So no penalty as you are entitled to buy the car at any time within the lease or at lease end - but ONLY you can buy it for the price agreed.
 
BTW, before you brag too much on your deal - remember the MF and price should be low, but the higher the residual the better for the deal - means you are paying less for use of car for term of lease.
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Re: Lease vs. Buy Conundrum [siman] by rallyfan
Jun 13, 2007 (5:39 pm)
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Replying to: siman (Jun 11, 2007 7:14 pm)

HEY SIMAN LOOKS LIKE YOU AND I ARE HAVING THE SAME PROBLEM BOTH OF OUR POST ARE BEING IGNORED DUE TO THE CONSTANT BATTLE THAT HAS TAKEN OVER THIS SITE. LOOKS LIKE WE WANT THE SAME TYPE CAR GOOD LUCK TRY NO OR LITTLE DOWN AND AT INVOICE RALLYFAN
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Re: Lease vs. Buy Conundrum [alex320] by siman
Jun 14, 2007 (7:58 pm)
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Replying to: alex320 (Jun 13, 2007 6:31 am)

We plan to revisit the dealership this Saturday and will let you know what I get from them.
It looks like the special leasing program is the bottom price and I am sure they will try to add on some other fees as you are dealing with them in person.
I will try to minimize my downpayment and monthly payments
Thanks!
PS: My dealership is Crown Audi - clearwater, FL.
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Re: Lease vs. Buy Conundrum [mcwenzel] by flashbordn
Jun 15, 2007 (6:45 am)
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Replying to: mcwenzel (Jun 10, 2007 10:48 am)

This just happened to me. I leased my audi and got my loan through Audi Financial Services (AFS). I had my mechanic sell my car and we listed it at the pay-off I was quoted by AFS. Needless to say I now owe my mechanic money because when the car sold yesterday and he purchased the car from AFS with the money he was given by the purchaser, AFS charges him the higher price (which neither of us knew anything about). This being said has anyone ever been succsesful in having AFS re-pay them the diffirence between the two pay-offs?
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press request by kirstie_h HOST
Jun 15, 2007 (11:06 am)
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A reporter from a large local newspaper would like to speak to consumers who have just leased a vehicle. Please respond to ctalatiedmunds.com no later than June 21, 2007 with your daytime contact information.
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Re: good grief [audihorse] by edwardsf
Jun 15, 2007 (5:13 pm)
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Replying to: audihorse (Jun 13, 2007 7:16 am)

Thanks for your attempts to explain this. According to 2 contract attorneys in my office, your view that it is unethical for AFS to require that "ONLY [the lessee] can buy it for the price agreed," has no basis in contract law. The third party buyer has no privity with the lessor, AFS, and therefore has no right to the price that the lessee contracted for. Why you guys think that a lessee can transfer the lease buyout terms to a third party or that the lessor would allow the lessee to do so is beyond the understanding of the two contract attorneys I spoke to. That is, if you want out of a business deal, you got to pay.
 
Remember, by selling to the third party at resdiual, Audi will lose interest. AFS can certainly agree to release the lessee but they can also make up for this lost profit by charging more to the third party. Even if the lessee himself can eliminate the interest through a prepayment buyout, AFS has no obligation to grant this original contract inducement to a third party. By agreeing to transfer this price to the third party, Audi loses the opportunity to sell the car for the price and manner they choose. After all, it is AFS' car and they get to sell it at the terms they set. Again, AFS is under no obligation to provide a third party with the terms that they have negotiated with the lessee.
 
I never said that Audi is taking a consumer friendly position. I only said that I don't believe that such a consumer friendly practice is industry custom. Neither of your combined 5 or 6 posts has provided any support for the existence of this supposed custom, so I can only conclude that it does not exist. One thing that we can agree on is that lessees should not assume that Audi - who subvents these leases - will let them transfer favorable lease terms to a third party.
 
BTW, I never bragged about residual rates, just made a typo that a low residual is good. I meant a high residual is favorable. I did not get a great residual (.51) but I did buy at $1000 under invoice.
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june rates by hybidz
Jun 15, 2007 (6:48 pm)
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what are the june buy rates on a 2007 a4 2.0 cvt cab
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Re: good grief [edwardsf] by audihorse
Jun 15, 2007 (7:08 pm)
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Replying to: edwardsf (Jun 15, 2007 5:13 pm)

I am happy that you finally understand the 3rd party issue.
 
I did not say AFS was unethical - maybe unfriendly, yes. And I believe the original poster if he says his research indicates other car cos. will sell to 3rd party for same price as they will to lessee.
 
BTW, if you or I pay off a lease early- AFS will not charge interest on remaining payments so that is not the issue. Base payments + residual. But at equivalent of 1.29% interest, etc. who wants to do that? And as you noted, none of their terms -prepayment buy out of remaining payments due less interest + set residual (or if at lease end residual only) are avail to 3rd party. I have no problem with their terms - I just leased another Audi - and I fully understand the deal. But I thought Mcwenzel's point of view was perfectly legitimate and that he explained it quite well.
 
Very good that you got $1000 below invoice. Did you pay that $495 advertising/prep fee they claim is on their "invoice"?
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Re: Lease vs. Buy Conundrum [flashbordn] by cars0153
Jun 16, 2007 (7:33 am)
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Replying to: flashbordn (Jun 15, 2007 6:45 am)

This is normal. You and Audi had the contract not a 3rd party. Any manufacturer can sell the car for anything they want other than the original lessee. You're lucky they would even sell the car to him. Most of the time the manufacturer won't.
They nothing wrong! You avoided payhing sales tax if you bought it.

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