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Prices Paid: Buying & Leasing Experiences Audi A4 Lease Questions
3133 messages, Last post on Nov 29, 2009 at 1:44 PM
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Replying to: edwardsf (Jun 10, 2007 5:37 pm) "Regarding your claimed scenario #2, you claim that the contract is silent on the criteria regarding buyout and you don't like their interpretation of the buyout clause" Classic. Since nobody could be this criminally stupid, at this point I am convinced my wife put you up to posting as a practical joke and/or you and RaudiAudi are the same person and this is an endless troll. Either way, I'm out. I need to get back to using confusing and bombastic rhetoric to take advantage of multi-billion dollar corporations. If anyone needs any advice on how to navigate the third party buyout in California or the inherent risks unique to an Audi/VW lease, feel free to e-mail me.
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Replying to: mcwenzel (Jun 10, 2007 6:01 pm) Glad you gave up on Dumb and Dumber, though. It was hopeless. If either of them were your client - you would have to fire the client. 
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Replying to: mcwenzel (Jun 10, 2007 6:01 pm) However, if a lease is made through a dealer directly with AFS, AFS is bound by the contract, if the dealer didn't go about it this way, i.e. carried you through the lease then you said you want to buy the car at the end of it, which this most likely sounds like your case, then yea, you did get hosed and should have known better. You make it sound as if AFS inks a deal with someone when a car is leased, tells them specific numbers in writing, then backs out and says, oh yea, that residual, we were just kidding, actually, here is the real price which is more like FMV. I will ask when I go for an Audi lease if the paper is carried by them and all terms of the agreement are going to be honored by them or if it won't happen because the dealer or another third party lessor will have to at that time buy the car from AFS. Here are your paragraphs..... |
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JHC....... i had to sign up for this forum just to post this after reading this thread. anyone reading this --- do yourself a favor and pay attention to the posts by mcwenzel. i read contracts every day and he has a clear understanding of, and provides a clear understanding of, the relevant topics. reading the posts of the other side in this "debate" is like reading a dr seuss book upside down after having 5 pints. btw, if anyone wants to reply, what is the bottom line on a 36 mo a4 lease, 12k miles, say $2k down? or just the 36 mo residual and money factor used would be great to have. seems like they must have a pretty low mf if my sister in law is accurate that she landed a new a4 2 mos ago for 360/mo inclusing taxes.
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could you give an example of a good lease on A4 2.0 cvt frnt trk i want to put as little down as possible 15k year 36 months thanks rallyfan ps i finally am able to post yeah love this site
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Replying to: mcwenzel (Jun 08, 2007 2:51 pm) This site is very confusing especially with some other irresponsible posters to confuse most other people (like me). I just wanted to know if this is a good deal from my local dealer Ads (St.Petersburg, FL). For A4 with MSRP $31,015, the downpayment is $1,999 and the monthly payment is $299 plus tax. Term: 36 months (30,000 miles total) What should I watch out with this Ads? This is not clear to me if the downpayment includes all the prep fees, acquisition fee, etc. We went to the dealer on Sunday (they closed) and saw one exactly A4 we both wanted with the MSRP $31,015 exact amount from the classified Ad. The residual amount is $17,058.25. It just didn't make sense (with negative MF?), too good to be true? Thanks for all your helps! |
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Either you or the dealer can buy the car from Audi for the residual on the contract period. If the dealer is saying you have to go through them then they are lying to you. Go right to Audi If you are intending to sell the car you do have to register the car first, pay the tax and then sell it. You presently don't own the car and the tax must be paid |
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Replying to: mcwenzel (Jun 10, 2007 6:01 pm) BTW, as we are crowing, I did work in the Bankruptcy law division at Bank of America many years ago. My job (and that of many others) was to defend the Bank against deadbeats who obtained loans and not only could not pay them but then sued the bank for lending them too much money. Right up your alley. |
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Replying to: jagx (Jun 11, 2007 6:17 pm) Perhaps you can explain in laymen's terms why: 1) If AFS unilaterally replaced the lease residual #s with FMV #s, why McWenzel does not have a cause of action against them for breach of contract and violation of Fair lending laws. 2) If he has no recourse, why is this the only area of contract law, where one party can provide a specific # when writing the contract (e.g. residual), yet use another one (e.g. FMV) to later interpret it. This simply makes no sense. Also, McWenzel claims NO OTHER finance dealers do this but cannot provide ONE link to another leasing company that does not penalize lessees for getting out of the lease. What am I missing there? Now for my credentials: I just leased an A4 Avant for 36 months and have the MF, Residual and a price lower than any seen on this forum - all are available if you can explain why McWenzel does not have a claim against AFS or alternatively why he simply is trying to get out of a contract that he doesn't like.
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Replying to: siman (Jun 11, 2007 7:14 pm)
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