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Audi A3 Lease Questions

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Re: credit score=money factors? [chiquita] by Car_man HOST
Dec 05, 2005 (3:07 am)
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Replying to: chiquita (Nov 26, 2005 2:14 pm)

Hi chiquita. Your credit score will definitely have an impact upon your ability to get a bank's best possible lease money factor. Some banks have different lease money factors for vehicles that vary depending upon what sort of credit score the lessee has. I am pretty sure that Audi Financial Services uses a pass / fail system though, either you qualify for its special lease program or you don't. I am not sure exactly what score is necessary to qualify for its special lease program though. Always remember that dealers are usually not required to give consumers the lowest possible money factor on vehicles. They are often allowed to "mark-up" money factors to add additional back-end profit to deals. As long as you know what the buy rate lease money factor for the car that you are interested in should be, you should be able to get the dealer that you are working with to use it to calculate your vehicle's lease payment.
 
Audi did introduce a new lease program for the month of December. Its current 36 month buy rate lease money factor for the 2006 A3 is .00290.
 
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Lease rates ? by mind
Dec 14, 2005 (10:41 am)
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Hi guys
 
I have just moved to the US, and want to get an A3. If they do a credit check they get "record not found" (obviously).
 
The first deal I was offered over the phone was $569/month and about $1300 down (first month + registration + destination). This is 36 months, and 15000 miles/year.
 
From calcs, this works out at MSRP of $29785 (premium,
cold weather, open sky and Xeon), 52% residual, and MF of 0.0029.
 
However, when I went in to test drive the A4 and sign the paperwork for the credit check, the dealer tried to prep me with the story about "tiers" of credit.
 
Soo.... two questions:
 
a) Is 52% residual value correct, or should it be higher ? Previous posts have mentioned 52% AND 62%. Which is it ?
 
b) I would really like to know if Audi Financial
 Services has "tiers" of interest rates, or if the
 dealer is just about to try to screw me by loading the
 interest rate. Is the "tiers" of credit story correct ?
 
Thanks !
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Re: Lease rates ? [mind] by Car_man HOST
Dec 28, 2005 (3:38 am)
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Replying to: mind (Dec 14, 2005 10:41 am)

Welcome mind. While Audi's exact residual values for the A2 vary depending upon exactly which model you want, the 36 month, 15,000 miles per year residual value of 52% that you were quoted looks about right. Many banks do publish tiered money factors for the vehicles that they lease, but I do not recall ever seeing credit tiers associated with leases through Audi Financial Services. I was always under the impression that AFS used more of a pass / fail system for leases like BMW Financial Services does than a tiered system like Honda Finance.
 
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Re: Lease rates ? [Car_man] by rjlaero
Dec 28, 2005 (7:37 pm)
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Replying to: Car_man (Dec 28, 2005 3:38 am)

You are correct that Audi has a pass/fail lease structure, and they do not have a tier system.
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Re: Lease rates ? [rjlaero] by mind
Jan 03, 2006 (10:33 am)
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Replying to: rjlaero (Dec 28, 2005 7:37 pm)

Hi guys
 
Thanks for the info !
 
The dealer initially tried for a 0.00315 MF. That was stopped
 
I have the car, and am VERY happy with it so far.
 
Interestingly enough, it has about 400 miles on the clock
and is one of the original custom builds that came into
the US with window-blinds built into the doors etc. It seems it was swopped from dealer-to-dealer several times.
 
-Mind
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Re: Lease rates ? [rjlaero] by Car_man HOST
Jan 06, 2006 (3:00 am)
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Replying to: rjlaero (Dec 28, 2005 7:37 pm)

Thanks for the confirmation, rjlaero.
 
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Re: Lease rates ? [mind] by danphx
Jan 06, 2006 (3:23 pm)
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Replying to: mind (Jan 03, 2006 10:33 am)

Could you explain a little more what "window-blinds built into the doors etc." are? Sorry, but I haven't seen that option available on the A3 anywhere.
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Can't figure out lease, A4 Avant vs. A3 by jmartin1
Jan 07, 2006 (8:25 pm)
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I've never leased, but my current job makes it strongly desirable. I prefer the A3, so I went on Audi USA, and "built my Audi." On the A3, I went with 2.0T, DSG, a few options that led the MSRP to a bit over $32K. I then built an A4 Avant with the same engine, AT, Sport, S-Line, etc. to an MSRP of $42K. Guess what...for a 36 mo. lease, the A4 was LESS MONEY. For a car retailing at $10 more to purchase. I don't understand this. Does Audi believe that the A3 will depreciate that much more? If so, I gives me less incentive not only to lease it, but to buy it...b/c my resale after purchase will be lousy as well.
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Re: Can't figure out lease, A4 Avant vs. A3 [jmartin1] by kyfdx HOST
Jan 08, 2006 (8:00 am)
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Replying to: jmartin1 (Jan 07, 2006 8:25 pm)

This is all just my own opinion and conjecture.. but, here goes..
 
The A4 is Audi's bread and butter car for the U.S. They have to sell a lot of them.. Sort of like the Accord for Honda.. It is imperative that they be competitive on price with BMW, etc.. So, they incentivize the lease program with unrealistically high residuals to keep the payment down.. I believe that real-world depreciation is much higher for the A4 than these residuals suggest.. Of course, if you are leasing, these deals are great... In fact, you would be crazy to buy the A4 when the lease deals are this good..
 
The A3 on the other hand? It is a niche car for Audi.. They don't have great lease deals because they don't have to sell that many of them.. I believe the residuals on them are more realistic.. Plus, it is a lower priced car that will have a higher percentage of buyers vs. leasers than the A4.
 
If you are leasing, it would be hard to pass up the A4 for the A3.. If you are buying, I believe real world re-sale depreciation will be similar..
 
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New A3 lease deal? by amitvisual
Feb 15, 2006 (11:36 pm)
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Just heard that Audi has a lease deal on the A3 - 36 months, A3 2.0T DSG no options for $359/month, 10k/yr - any idea what the MF and residuals are

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