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Re: Possible to get TSX w/Tech for ~$300/month? [waynetam] by drtravel
Nov 06, 2008 (5:05 pm)
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Replying to: waynetam (Nov 06, 2008 10:46 am)

TSX w/Tech for Acura's advertised deal on a regular TSX which is $309/month?
 
Some rough numbers for you:
 
Say you lease a 2009 TSX w/Tech package for 36 months, 10K per year with a down payment of $2675 - just matching the web site. You say you can get the car at invoice.
 
MSRP = 32,820
Cap cost = 30,241 (invoice) less 2675 = 27566
Residual is 32820 X 0.62 = 20348.40
 
Depreciation = (27566-20348.40)/36 = 200.49
Interest = (27566+20348.40) X 0.00263 = 126.02
 
Lease would be 200.49 + 126.02 = 326.51 plus TTL
 
I would never put anything down on a lease - I'm sure all the lease experts agree with me on this point. If you do the same lease with nothing down the cap cost would be 30241, the payment increases to 407.84 plus TTL which is 81.33 more per month. Over the course of the lease you pay 81.33 X 36 = 2928 instead of the 2675 down.
 
Of course this lease is only for 10K per year. For 15K per year the residual would be 32820 X 0.59 = 19363.80. The payment for nothing down is 432.60 plus TTL, the payment with 2675 down is 351.27 plus TTL.
 
Don't shop based on a monthly payment. With a big enough down payment I can get the monthly payment to any number you want.
 
BTW - I'm also in SoCal. If you make a deal be sure to let me know the details and from which dealer you got it from. Planet Acura seems to be the most aggressive in their e-mails but I'm not sure whether they will actually come through in the end.
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Re: Possible to get TSX w/Tech for ~$300/month? [drtravel] by bvdj84
Nov 06, 2008 (5:34 pm)
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Replying to: drtravel (Nov 06, 2008 5:05 pm)

Of course this lease is only for 10K per year. For 15K per year the residual would be 32820 X 0.59 = 19363.80. The payment for nothing down is 432.60 plus TTL, the payment with 2675 down is 351.27 plus TTL.
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Now, for that $0 down, $432.60 a month. Why would I want to get an Accord EX-L 4cyl with navi that supposedly has a payment that goes into the $500's.
 
Does any of this make sense? Why does it seem that Accord lease is so high, or am I missing something?
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Re: Possible to get TSX w/Tech for ~$300/month? [bvdj84] by biker4
Nov 08, 2008 (7:20 am)
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Replying to: bvdj84 (Nov 06, 2008 5:34 pm)

Resale - it's lower on the Accord.
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Re: Possible to get TSX w/Tech for ~$300/month? [drtravel] by waynetam
Nov 08, 2008 (11:01 pm)
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Replying to: drtravel (Nov 06, 2008 5:05 pm)

Hi drtravel your final payment seems to make sense for TSX w/Tech ($326.51 plus TTL/month) but I don't understand your math. It is my understanding that when we lease a car we are only paying for the depreciation of the car correct? So if the depreciation is ($27566-$20348.40=$7217.60) over a 36 months lease shouldn't my interest payment be based on $7217.60 since that's how much I'm financing? Your math shows my interest to be based on ($27566+$20348.40) which means $47914.40! How did you come up with that?
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Re: Possible to get TSX w/Tech for ~$300/month? [waynetam] by kyfdx HOST
Nov 09, 2008 (9:22 am)
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Replying to: waynetam (Nov 08, 2008 11:01 pm)

You aren't financing the depreciation. In terms of a regular loan, the depreciation is how much of the principal you are paying off during the term. The amount financed is the entire purchase price. After all, that is what the bank pays the dealer for the car you are leasing.
 
They add the CAP cost and residual, because they are seeking an average of those two numbers. The actual amount financed for lease purposes is the (CAP cost + residual) / 2.
 
You don't see the divisor in the calculations, because it is accounted for within the money factor, itself.
 
regards,
kyfdx
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by gab2409
Nov 09, 2008 (9:04 pm)
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does anyone think I will be able to swing this deal before the end of the year? I'd like a 3 yr, 12k/yr lease for the 09 base. I have a trade in that is valued at $7100 (outstanding loan is $5500) per KBB's trade-in value. I would like to be at the $309/month with putting nothing down (except possibly 1st month's payment). based on the numbers in this thread, it would look like this:
 
msrp: $29720
purchase: $25650
money factor: 0.00263
residual: 63%
total pmt: $309
total pmt + tax: $332
 
I think the math works out to be about $600 over invoice, assuming that I get $1600 for my trade. is this reasonable?
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Re: [gab2409] by drtravel
Nov 10, 2008 (9:39 am)
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Replying to: gab2409 (Nov 09, 2008 9:04 pm)

Invoice is $27,398
 
27,398 + 600 - 1600 = 26,398 not the 25,650 in your example
 
Would not count on getting KBB's trade-in value for your car. These figures are notoriously higher than what dealers are offering.
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by gab2409
Nov 10, 2008 (10:12 am)
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I'm assuming that $777 in our invoice prices is the destination fee...isn't that something that I could avoid by leasing an in-stock vehicle?
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Request for TSX Residuals/Money factor by drtravel
Nov 11, 2008 (11:07 am)
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Looking for Base model 15K per year, 36 and 48 months. Also are these valid for the next two months?
 
Thank you
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Re: 2009 Acura TSX lease info [drtravel] by Car_man HOST
Nov 13, 2008 (4:46 am)
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Replying to: drtravel (Nov 05, 2008 9:24 pm)

Hey drtravel. Acura is not providing lease support on 4 year leases of the 2009 TSX, so if you want to lease for this long its money factor would increase slightly from the special .00263 to the standard .00290 (for consumers who qualify for its "Super Preferred" credit tier and pay a security deposit at lease signing. Honda Finance's residual value for a 48 month lease of a base '09 TSX with 15,000 miles per year is 52%.
 
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