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Re: 2009 Acura TSX lease info [Car_man] by drtravel
Nov 05, 2008 (9:24 pm)
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Replying to: Car_man (Nov 05, 2008 6:46 pm)

Do you have the numbers for a 4 year lease 15K per year?
 
I noticed that the advertised lease deal on Acura.com is valid for November and December so it looks like Acura isn't planning on changing their lease numbers for two months. Note also that they do not require a security deposit to obtain the 0.00263 MF - at least that's what their web site details imply.
 
Thanks
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Re: 2009 Acura TSX lease info [drtravel] by bvdj84
Nov 06, 2008 (7:00 am)
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Replying to: drtravel (Nov 05, 2008 9:24 pm)

I have gotten lease quotes on the Accord, and the TSX, and it makes more sense to me to get the TSX. I get so much more, and the gap between them both is almost not there in lease numbers. They are quoting me $370 for an EX-L 4cyl Accord no navi, $0 down, then just a little bit over $400 for the TSX. Now, for what I get in just the base model TSX, it seems to me, worth the upgrade! Not to mention the TSX is an amazing car, and it has the paddleshifters I want, bluetooth, little things like this. I have not even test driven the car, but I would honestly lease one without even doing so. I am that confident!
 
Does this make sense that the Accord and TSX lease deals are so close together?
They were quoting me clear into the $500's for a loaded Accord, which goes right into TSX territory. I am sure I could probably get a loaded TSX for lower than this, give or take, it would not be to far off. Still the TSX might seem more attractive.
 
 I have made up my mind, the TSX is the car I want, I have looked at other cars, but I keep coming back to this car. Now if I can get my payments under $400 a month, then we got a deal.
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Possible to get TSX w/Tech for ~$300/month? by waynetam
Nov 06, 2008 (10:46 am)
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Hello all I am ready to lease a 2009 TSX w/ Tech before the end of this year and would really need your helps in getting the best lease deal. I've been searching the internet a bit and found many people reporting that a TSX can be have with close to invoice price now. So my question is if my lease is going to be based on a negotiated price of let's say $30,000 is it possible to get a TSX w/Tech for Acura's advertised deal on a regular TSX which is $309/month? I would like to keep my down payment under $3000 if not lower. BTW I have 760 FICO and I'm in Southern California.
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Re: Possible to get TSX w/Tech for ~$300/month? [waynetam] by drtravel
Nov 06, 2008 (5:05 pm)
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Replying to: waynetam (Nov 06, 2008 10:46 am)

TSX w/Tech for Acura's advertised deal on a regular TSX which is $309/month?
 
Some rough numbers for you:
 
Say you lease a 2009 TSX w/Tech package for 36 months, 10K per year with a down payment of $2675 - just matching the web site. You say you can get the car at invoice.
 
MSRP = 32,820
Cap cost = 30,241 (invoice) less 2675 = 27566
Residual is 32820 X 0.62 = 20348.40
 
Depreciation = (27566-20348.40)/36 = 200.49
Interest = (27566+20348.40) X 0.00263 = 126.02
 
Lease would be 200.49 + 126.02 = 326.51 plus TTL
 
I would never put anything down on a lease - I'm sure all the lease experts agree with me on this point. If you do the same lease with nothing down the cap cost would be 30241, the payment increases to 407.84 plus TTL which is 81.33 more per month. Over the course of the lease you pay 81.33 X 36 = 2928 instead of the 2675 down.
 
Of course this lease is only for 10K per year. For 15K per year the residual would be 32820 X 0.59 = 19363.80. The payment for nothing down is 432.60 plus TTL, the payment with 2675 down is 351.27 plus TTL.
 
Don't shop based on a monthly payment. With a big enough down payment I can get the monthly payment to any number you want.
 
BTW - I'm also in SoCal. If you make a deal be sure to let me know the details and from which dealer you got it from. Planet Acura seems to be the most aggressive in their e-mails but I'm not sure whether they will actually come through in the end.
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Re: Possible to get TSX w/Tech for ~$300/month? [drtravel] by bvdj84
Nov 06, 2008 (5:34 pm)
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Replying to: drtravel (Nov 06, 2008 5:05 pm)

Of course this lease is only for 10K per year. For 15K per year the residual would be 32820 X 0.59 = 19363.80. The payment for nothing down is 432.60 plus TTL, the payment with 2675 down is 351.27 plus TTL.
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Now, for that $0 down, $432.60 a month. Why would I want to get an Accord EX-L 4cyl with navi that supposedly has a payment that goes into the $500's.
 
Does any of this make sense? Why does it seem that Accord lease is so high, or am I missing something?
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Re: Possible to get TSX w/Tech for ~$300/month? [bvdj84] by biker4
Nov 08, 2008 (7:20 am)
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Replying to: bvdj84 (Nov 06, 2008 5:34 pm)

Resale - it's lower on the Accord.
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Re: Possible to get TSX w/Tech for ~$300/month? [drtravel] by waynetam
Nov 08, 2008 (11:01 pm)
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Replying to: drtravel (Nov 06, 2008 5:05 pm)

Hi drtravel your final payment seems to make sense for TSX w/Tech ($326.51 plus TTL/month) but I don't understand your math. It is my understanding that when we lease a car we are only paying for the depreciation of the car correct? So if the depreciation is ($27566-$20348.40=$7217.60) over a 36 months lease shouldn't my interest payment be based on $7217.60 since that's how much I'm financing? Your math shows my interest to be based on ($27566+$20348.40) which means $47914.40! How did you come up with that?
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Re: Possible to get TSX w/Tech for ~$300/month? [waynetam] by kyfdx HOST
Nov 09, 2008 (9:22 am)
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Replying to: waynetam (Nov 08, 2008 11:01 pm)

You aren't financing the depreciation. In terms of a regular loan, the depreciation is how much of the principal you are paying off during the term. The amount financed is the entire purchase price. After all, that is what the bank pays the dealer for the car you are leasing.
 
They add the CAP cost and residual, because they are seeking an average of those two numbers. The actual amount financed for lease purposes is the (CAP cost + residual) / 2.
 
You don't see the divisor in the calculations, because it is accounted for within the money factor, itself.
 
regards,
kyfdx
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by gab2409
Nov 09, 2008 (9:04 pm)
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does anyone think I will be able to swing this deal before the end of the year? I'd like a 3 yr, 12k/yr lease for the 09 base. I have a trade in that is valued at $7100 (outstanding loan is $5500) per KBB's trade-in value. I would like to be at the $309/month with putting nothing down (except possibly 1st month's payment). based on the numbers in this thread, it would look like this:
 
msrp: $29720
purchase: $25650
money factor: 0.00263
residual: 63%
total pmt: $309
total pmt + tax: $332
 
I think the math works out to be about $600 over invoice, assuming that I get $1600 for my trade. is this reasonable?
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Re: [gab2409] by drtravel
Nov 10, 2008 (9:39 am)
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Replying to: gab2409 (Nov 09, 2008 9:04 pm)

Invoice is $27,398
 
27,398 + 600 - 1600 = 26,398 not the 25,650 in your example
 
Would not count on getting KBB's trade-in value for your car. These figures are notoriously higher than what dealers are offering.

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