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Acura TSX, Car Leasing, Sedan
#1468 of 2481 2009 TSX w/Tech Pkg
Jul 17, 2009 (7:13 am)
All should take a look at www.truecars.com wherein you can get the REAL transaction numbers of actual sales prices in your local and regional area, up to the national level. Works for vehicles upon which they have the data, which are most. I have found the REAL sales prices much lower than www.carsdirect.com, in most instances. I spoke to a few dealers about this new site, and once they saw it their jaws dropped in disgust!
My latest calculation for a new 2009 TSX w/Tech Pkg in NYC metro area for 36 mo./15k is:
Base: $28,750 [based upon what actually sold]
Money Factor: .00198
Sales Tax: 8.375%
Mo. Lease: $409.43 incl. sales tax
add upfront first month, tags, Honda fee.
Only thing I'd add, personally, are splash guards and wheel locks.
Too bad Acura no longer offers OnStar, I had it in my 2003 TL-S, currently have it in my 2007 Saab 9-7X 5.3. Absolutely terrific service, worth every penny!
#1469 of 2481 Re: and I want the tech version [robertw477]
Jul 17, 2009 (9:27 am)
The difference between a 10k & 12k lease is that the 10k lease will have a 1% higher residual. A 15k lease will have a 2% lower residual then a 12k lease.
#1470 of 2481 Re: 2009 TSX w/Tech Pkg [avalon2000]
by kyfdx@Edmunds HOST
Jul 18, 2009 (5:47 am)
What makes truecar any different than our own TMV? They collect info on sales prices from dealerships... So does Edmunds.
Since neither site is providing the method behind collecting their data or their own proprietary calculations, then how do you propose one is better than the other?
I will propose that Edmunds has been around a lot longer, has far more information from members and dealers, and probably generates more web traffic than truecar (by many, many multiples).
It's a nicely laid out website... but, that doesn't make their information accurate or better.
#1471 of 2481 Re: 2009 TSX w/Tech Pkg [kyfdx]
Jul 18, 2009 (7:41 am)
Not trying to denigrate Edmunds. It's just that TrueCars has the distinct number of vehicles sold within distinct price ranges, within charts & histograms, as opposed to just one average price. For example, when I know there is only one particular brand dealer in my local area, I can pinpoint what they actually sold my chosen vehicle for, with options. Regardless, the web site offers great tools in negotiating the lowest price, as opposed to just some average price.
The reaction the dealers have had to this new web site is one of disgust, "too much information given to the prospect" I was told. In more than one case, the info has revealed what pricing liers some dealers are to me, just plain old scum bags, wherein I know now never to step a foot in their dealerships. No wonder they are all nearly going out of business!
#1472 of 2481 Re: 2009 TSX w/Tech Pkg [avalon2000]
Jul 18, 2009 (12:07 pm)
My 1st instinct is to agree completely and say go with TMV from Edmunds. But as somone who has only one Acura dealer at 45 miles away, and the next three at 200 miles away, a more accurate dealer or regional pricing is needed--and so I like the concept behind TrueCars... if they had more comparables. This will be the final nail in the coffin for dealers, perhaps, as far as consumer power goes. Still, for someone like me who wants the TSX, for example, I may have no choice but to go with what the closest dealer says and just pray it's in the TMV or TrueCar ballpark. I could move to NY or CA I suppose, but then I couldn't afford my house. Woe is Midwest life.
#1473 of 2481 Re: 2009 TSX w/Tech Pkg [roubaud]
Jul 18, 2009 (3:11 pm)
My suggestion is to significantly broaden your zip code area on Edmunds and TrueCar, and look at local, regional & national on TrueCar. Midwest? IMHO try Chicago. If attractive, could always negotiate a lease from there with faxed/emailed paperwork, then merely drive to Chicago, or if no wheels yet, just rent a local car for one way transportation, or bus, train, plane. Then take delivery and drive back home. A pain in the ass, true, but could be a BIG $SAVINGS???
Nationwide, the cheapest dealers tend to be in and around the Reading, PA area, as this is where most all East Coast livery companies buy their cars, typically the Lincoln Town Car, and where many fleet sales take place.
Jul 20, 2009 (12:29 am)
do many dealers still have 09 TSX w/tech? i know lots of dealers have 2010s piled up...
i'm wondering if you could ge ta better deal on a leftover 09 tech or a 2010 base...
leasing. are there incentives on any of the TSXs now?
i had been looking at TL leases, but don't want to spend that much. i was figuring a TL base w/tech was going to be around 522/month with zero down. not sure how much cheaper I coudl go to get a TSX. i was thinking of getting a nicer car like a TSX and now i'm starting to get that "screw it just buy a cheap car" attitude... not cheap like a corolla..just less expensnive..like an inline 4 TSX instead of the V6 TL...
#1475 of 2481 Re: 09 vs 2010? [23109vc]
Jul 20, 2009 (4:11 am)
I've had offers in the 400-450 range per month with zero down from for 36 mos on the 09 TL tech from some southern cal dealers.
#1476 of 2481 Re: 09 vs 2010? [gpb59]
Jul 20, 2009 (6:35 am)
zero down? and 400-450/month? is that before tax?
i read a recent post here where a person reported getting 480/month + tax with zero down. maybe you coudl get to 450k...but I don't think you could get to 400.
i'd consider going down to a TSX lease if I could save a ton of money per month..not sure how much cheaper I can ge tthe TSX lease for vs a TL?
with the $2000 dealer cash on teh TL, it seemslike the TL is actually a better lease.
there is $1250 dealer cash on eh TSX tech, but the selling price of that car is about 29000 to 29500. the selling price for a TL w/tech is hardly any higher than that... like 33500 or something...more expensive..but a marginal increase.
a TL base NO tech would hardly be any more expensive than a TSX tech...
#1477 of 2481 Re: 2009 TSX w/Tech Pkg [avalon2000]
Jul 20, 2009 (10:20 am)
I'm looking at leasing an 09 Base TSX and am getting very frustrated. Even though I live in DFW (TX) area where there are 4 Acura dealerships, there seem to be very few 09's left.
I just tried using the True Cars cost with one of the dealers who still has 4 of the 09's in stock. He told me that he will sell all 4 by the end of the month for more money, and wished me well in my endeavors elsewhere. Should I keep pumping this dealer, or move on?
Leasing gives me tired-head