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Acura RL Lease Questions

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Re: Car_Man: Lease Calc on 2005 RL [Car_man] by corrad
Nov 09, 2005 (6:09 pm)
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Replying to: Car_man (Nov 03, 2005 4:06 am)

Hi Car_Man, I am contemplating of leasing for the first time, and have begun to learn the ins and outs. But I am still confused by how monthly payments are determined. According to the example you provided in message #59, if the selling price is $42,500, money factor of .0026 and a residual value of 54%, the monthly payment is $616. However, when I plug in those numbers into the lease payment calculator that is provided on this website, I get a monthly lease payment of $724.16, not including taxes.
 
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lease terms by zarethustra
Nov 09, 2005 (6:14 pm)
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Car_man this question is for you.
 
I'm wondering what the residual and money factor on a 05 RL should be in the following scenarios:
 
12K year 36 months and 39 months
15K year 36 months and 39 months
 
Thanks in advance.
 
If you answer this, one other thing, where are you getting your information ?
 
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Re: Re: 24 Mo. Lease vs 36 Mo Lease [mmcporter] by csbrown
Nov 10, 2005 (5:38 am)
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Replying to: mmcporter (Sep 19, 2005 3:37 am)

hello i've been looking long and hard at the acura rl for quite some time now . when looking at other comments people have been putting up it seems they are getting it close to cost or cheaper . what i'm wondering is can you negiotiat the price of the car and then tell them you want to lease it or is it at a set price . example on acura .com they have 36 months for 599 a month with all the other factors in . with 8000 down 1) i'm wondering could i get a better price on a least ? or should i just go ahead and buy it . one lady i talked to who owns hers said through the internet she was able to get a better deal at buying and paid 42,000 with about 6,000 down that doesn't seem possible . is it cheaper to buy or lease ?
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Re: Re: 24 Mo. Lease vs 36 Mo Lease [csbrown] by zarethustra
Nov 10, 2005 (10:43 am)
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Replying to: csbrown (Nov 10, 2005 5:38 am)

The final sales price seems to depend on where you live in the US. I live in the midwest and the best price I have been able to negotiate is around 42,900. I had Internet offers from CA fro 41,750, but I would have to get the car here somehow.
 
When negotiating the price, remember there is a 2500 direct to dealer factory cash right now, so you should be able to buy in the 42,xxx range.
 
As to your primary question, yes you can get a best price and then negotiate a lease based on that price. You should be able to do better then the 599 deal Acura is offering.
 
If you get the money factor and residual value for the lease term you are interested in, you can go to the following web site to get a good idea what your monthly lease rate should be:
http://www.leaseguide.com/calc.htm
 
I'm finding it difficult to find the colors I want, black or white. Silver seems to be the most abundant color. I believe inventories are running low now and wouldn't wait much longer on pulling the trigger.
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Re: Re: 24 Mo. Lease vs 36 Mo Lease [zarethustra] by rxrxrx
Nov 11, 2005 (4:35 pm)
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Replying to: zarethustra (Nov 10, 2005 10:43 am)

I just got a 36 month least on the 06 RL....Terms were 36 months/18000miles per year/0 down.
 
Ended up with $725.90/month with $1670 up front cost.
 
Hope this helps anyone out there.
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Re: Car_Man: Lease Calc on 2005 RL [corrad] by Car_man HOST
Nov 20, 2005 (6:34 am)
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Replying to: corrad (Nov 09, 2005 6:09 pm)

Hi corrad. If you need to know how leasing works, I've got the articles for you. You definitely should check out them out before visiting any dealers: 10 Steps to Leasing a New Car and Calculate Your Own Lease Payment.
 
As far as the specific lease payment that I estimated earlier goes, I just double checked my calculations and again came up with $616 per month. The lease calculator that is available on this site is a little confusing because I believe that there is no place to manually input vehicles' MSRPs. Instead you have to select a vehicle from a list and the MSRP is put in automatically. This may be part of the problem. Also, the lease calculator on this site seems to automatically add sales tax into lease payments. All of the payments that I mention in these discussions are before tax, which would make them lower.
 
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Re: lease terms [zarethustra] by Car_man HOST
Nov 20, 2005 (6:40 am)
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Replying to: zarethustra (Nov 09, 2005 6:14 pm)

Hello zarethustra. Here is the information that you are looking for. If you were to lease a 2005 Acura RL through Honda Finance right now for 36 months with 15,000 miles per year, its buy rate lease money factor and residual value should be .00260 and 54%, respectively. The numbers for an otherwise identical 39 month lease should be .00260 and 48%. If you were to lease this car with only 12,000 miles per year, its residual values would be 2% higher.
 
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Re: Re: 24 Mo. Lease vs 36 Mo Lease [csbrown] by Car_man HOST
Nov 20, 2005 (6:56 am)
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Replying to: csbrown (Nov 10, 2005 5:38 am)

Hi csbrown. The selling prices of leased vehicles are absolutely negotiable. Negotiate as good a selling price as you can on the Acura RL that you want and then have the dealer calculate its lease payment for you.
 
Did you say that the advertised lease that you saw for this car included a $8,000 down payment?!?! I think that you misread the advertisement. The advertised lease payment that I have seen for this car only requires a $2,500 down payment, and even that is too much. I always advise consumers against making any sort of down payment when leasing. I do so for two main reasons. The first is if your vehicle is totaled in an accident or stolen during your lease, your insurance company pays off the bank that you were leasing it through and your down payment essentially disappears. The second main reason is that down payments on leased vehicles do nothing to reduce their lease-end purchase prices. So your lease-end purchase option price for your RL would be exactly the same, regardless of whether you had put several thousand dollars down, or had made absolutely no down payment at all.
 
Acura is not providing any sort of lease support on the RL right now. As a result, if you were to lease one through Honda Finance, you would have to use its standard lease program. Its standard lease money factor for a 36 month lease is currently .00260, which is equivalent to an interest rate of around 6.25%. This is probably around the same rate that you would have to pay to finance this car. There's nothing wrong with leasing an RL, but there certainly is no advantage to doing so. Whether you decide to finance, lease , or pay cash for this car make sure to take the $2,500 dealer cash that is currently available on it info account when negotiating its selling price.
 
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Accessories and Leasing by birdbird
Nov 26, 2005 (10:35 pm)
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Hi Car_man:
 
Do dealers or Honda Finance have any problem with letting you incorporate into the least an accessory like their rear view camera? I was thinking that if it needs to be screwed in or something that they might not want to do it cause it might hurt resale potential. Can you tell me what to expect on that?
 
Also, at the Acura web site they now have both the 2005 and 2006 RL on the same type of lease offer. What's up with that?
 
Thanks!
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Current '06 lease offer terms? by hannab
Nov 29, 2005 (2:53 am)
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The current '06 RL lease offer of $599 for a 36/10K lease is MSRP $49915; Cap Cost = 44,127; cap cost reduction = 2,500; and acquisition fee of 595. Payoff at end of lease is 29,500 which I am taking as the residual. Using these figures I calculate the money factor as about .00342 or 8.2%. This seems very high to me. Are my figures correct?
Thanks

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