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#5 of 11 Re: Making it palatable [macarthur2] by blueiedgod Aug 30, 2005 (4:16 am)
Replying to: macarthur2 (Aug 29, 2005 4:29 pm) Americans also would have a tough time accepting the diesel with a manual transmission. In general most don't want to row through the gears. But Honda now has a 5 speed auto in the gasoline version of the CR-V maybe it could be made to work with a few ratio changes. 6 and 7 speed automatic transmissions are showing up in other vehicles so maybe they could work on the diesel.   The problem is the torque produced by Diesel engines. It is the same amount of torque as the 3.5 liter V6 in the MDX, Pilot, Oddysey and Acorrd. We all know that Honda has had numerous problems with V6's and 5 spd Autos. Honda makes the best manuals, they are not good at making automatics. If Honda offered CR-V diesel with 6 spd manual as an alternative to current EX manual as the only manual choice, they would sell the same 3% of the vehicles. Yes, it will cost Honda money to certify new engine and tranny, but once certified, it can be placed in Accords, Oddyseys, and Pilots. People just have to get over the fact that manual trannys are still better than auto, no matter how sophisticated auto is. And if they don't want to row, they don't get to drive exciting techology. How many lazy people have been kept out driving Civic Si? You have to put an effort to drive exciting vehicles, rather than being a mindless drone like millions of other "point and shoot" drivers on the road.
#6 of 11 Re: Honda CR-V Diesel version [blueiedgod] by dieselb Oct 08, 2005 (10:09 am)
Replying to: blueiedgod (Aug 19, 2005 4:02 am) What about this report? From: http://www.carpages.co.uk/honda/honda_diesel_sets_new_world_records_12_05_04.asp?switched=- on&echo=921141253 Honda’s new Accord 2.2 i-CTDi Sport has this week set no fewer than 19 world speed records and achieved 3.07 litres / 100 km (92 mpg) fuel economy to boot. British racing driver Robin Liddell and freelance journalist Iain Robertson were part of the European record-setting team. Amongst the speed records set, which were all achieved in Production Car Class B (2000 – 2500 cc), were 133.04 mph (1 mile flying start), 84.25 mph (1 mile standing start) and an average speed of 130.38 mph over a 24-hour endurance period. These records were all set at Papenburg high-speed oval test track in north-west Germany on 1 and 2 May, and are all subject to FIA ratification. Two production cars, randomly selected by FIA officials, were used to undertake the speed records, and apart from the fitting of roll-cages, racing harnesses and radio equipment for track-to-pits communication, no other modifications were made to the cars. Following the speed record attempts, the same two cars were then driven 419 miles from Papenburg test track to Wiesbaden, near Frankfurt in order to complete the fuel economy run. The route comprised of a mixture of motorway and non-motorway driving, during which one of the Accords achieved a staggering 92 mpg average. The project, whose aim was to demonstrate the performance and economy of the Accord i-CTDi, was a joint production between Honda, the FIA and Italian-based JAS Motorsport, who managed fuelling and pit-stops. Honda UK’s driver in the speed record attempt, Robin Liddell, who has previously raced at Le Mans 24-hours, as well as the American Le Mans Series and the BRDC British GT championship, commented: "The car’s performance is very impressive, demonstrated by the records we’ve achieved. Honda has made real steps forward in styling, ergonomics and interior design with the new Accord Diesel and now has a package that can take on the best cars in its class." The Accord i-CTDi went on sale in the UK in February (4dr) and March (5dr) respectively, and to date, 1,500 units have been sold. The record breaking car will be displayed on the Honda stand (Hall 5, Stand 250) at this year's Sunday Times Motor Show Live at Birmingham NEC.   Car Model Accord 2.2 i-CTDi Executive Body Type 4-Door Saloon Performance [ Manufacturers Figures ] 0 - 62 mph, 9.5 Seconds ; Top Speed, 131 mph Transmission 5-Speed Manual Fuel Type, Diesel Economy [ Manufacturers Figures ] Urban, 39.8 mpg Extra Urban, 62.8 mpg Combined, 52.3 mpg    Courtesy of DieselB
#7 of 11 Can it be imported? by toodoit Oct 23, 2005 (10:29 am)
The CR-V diesel seems attractive to me. What are the possibilities of importing this vehicle into the US? Is there a place online I can find Federal and/or State regulations about importing it? Can it be imported and modified to meet standards by a "qualified" agent? Can just the engine be imported? I live in a state with no emissions standards. Does that matter at all? I would be burning biodiesel. Is this a problem with this vehicle?   Thanks for any help you can give. Replies to this message: biker4 (Oct 24, 2005 4:25 pm) toodoit (Oct 24, 2005 6:24 pm)
#8 of 11 Re: Can it be imported? [toodoit] by biker4 Oct 24, 2005 (4:25 pm)
Replying to: toodoit (Oct 23, 2005 10:29 am) Can't do it. An unmodified car will not pass the emissions tests with the available diesel. I already asked about another vehicle and emission testing alone STARTS at $30K per test. That's why car makers limit the number of drivetrain configurations available to only the most popular choices - the costs of compliance are high.   Dont't worry - just wait - 6/1/06 is the availability date of low sulphur diesel and soon thereafter there'll be announcements from a number of makers about diesel vehicles. I wouldn't be surprised to see the new Accord in MY 08 offer the diesel with the CR-V offering it around the same time. Replies to this message: toodoit (Oct 24, 2005 6:24 pm)
#9 of 11 Re: Can it be imported? [biker4] by toodoit Oct 24, 2005 (6:24 pm)
Replying to: biker4 (Oct 24, 2005 4:25 pm) Thanks for the reply. It's not the answer I wanted, but is the answer I expected. But I'm just curious: what is involved in an emissions test (I'm assuming it's emissions) that would run $30K?
#10 of 11 Looks like Honda's by vcarreras Oct 26, 2005 (9:34 am)
working on it. Hopefully in not too distant future 2-4 years?   http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=107691   This is what we've needed all along. Replies to this message: gpk (Apr 08, 2007 6:22 am)
#11 of 11 Re: Looks like Honda's [vcarreras] by gpk Apr 08, 2007 (6:22 am)
Replying to: vcarreras (Oct 26, 2005 9:34 am) I would love to get a CRV with diesel. Otherwise I will have to look at the Ford Escape Hybrid for my next vehicle. A 6 sd AT would help as well..

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