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#87 of 97 Re: Patriot Info [slingshot80] by theronrohr Oct 25, 2006 (9:07 pm)
Replying to: slingshot80 (Sep 05, 2006 3:14 pm) I read that the low range on the Patriot is actually a super-low mode on the CVT transmission rather than a seperate group of cogs. That's why the manual doesn't come with it. It sounds like a neat idea - just make that infinitely variable ratio transmission go a little lower than normal driving would demand.   An inexpensive, not too low mileage manual with low range would be the outgoing jeep wrangler 4cyl model. I don't think the new one has a 4 cyl because its quite a bit heavier. Replies to this message: theronrohr (Oct 25, 2006 9:11 pm) skierx420 (Nov 08, 2006 8:28 am)
#88 of 97 Re: Patriot Info [theronrohr] by theronrohr Oct 25, 2006 (9:11 pm)
Replying to: theronrohr (Oct 25, 2006 9:07 pm) By the way does anybody know what kind of engine braking you get with a CVT? (Isn't that the whole point of low range - to coast down steep hills without using the brakes.) Replies to this message: skierx420 (Nov 08, 2006 8:28 am)
#89 of 97 Re: Patriot [frostyy] by frostyy Oct 26, 2006 (9:23 am)
Replying to: frostyy (Sep 23, 2006 7:07 am) Update: patriot production now set to start Dec. 11 and go on sale early 2007... Replies to this message: frostyy (Dec 31, 2006 4:43 am)
#90 of 97 Re: Patriot Info [theronrohr] by skierx420 Nov 08, 2006 (8:28 am)
Replying to: theronrohr (Oct 25, 2006 9:11 pm) Engine braking on the CVT is similar to a manual. Not quite as pronounced as a manual because of the your physically preparing for the feeling after you let the clutch out when you downshift on steep terain in a manual transmission SUV. As I have driven both the Compass and the Caliber I expect the Patriot engine braking will be very good, just not quite as good as the Low Range mode will not let you operate past a certain ratio. I am certain its engine braking will be much better than my 1989 Ramcharger I use for offroading with its 727 Automatic with its non lockup torque converter. I hope this helps.
#91 of 97 Re: Patriot [frostyy] by frostyy Dec 31, 2006 (4:43 am)
Replying to: frostyy (Oct 26, 2006 9:23 am) Patriot production finally started Dec. 20th
#92 of 97 I drove the Patriot today! by wendyo Feb 08, 2007 (6:27 pm)
I am in the Washington DC area, and I located 2 dealers in the area that had the car - this is a HUGE area and I found only 3 Patriots - not even the largest dealers have them yet. I found a red one in Springfield, Va, a crummy little dealership being renovated, but the salesman was very nice. Went for a test drive and took some pictures inside and out of this cutie. I have to say it is the best looking small SUV out there!! Looks very African safari in the front end. It's small, but it didn't feel cramped, though one complaint was the shape of the seat cushion it flares up on the sides so if you have anything but a small butt, lol, you might find it a little uncomfortable. It held the road well and was easy to drive - but my main complaint was that the engine is very noisy and underpowered. VERY noisy. I am used to driving a Toyota Sienna minivan which is super quiet inside. I think the engine is too small for the car, but if you don't expect a peppy engine and aren't in a hurry, I guess you could live with it. The interior on the one I drove was pretty spartan, and the fabric on the seats seemed a little cheap and flimsy. I drove the 2x4 not the 4x 4 and the sticker price was 19,010 (base price 14,425). Gas mileage is rated at 24/27. I like the Grand Cherokee better overal with the larger engine, but the foot/leg position in that care is fatiguing, so I guess no Jeep for me I will enjoy watching them on the road though because they are so cute.   Wendy Replies to this message: theronrohr (Feb 09, 2007 7:27 pm)
#93 of 97 Re: I drove the Patriot today! [wendyo] by theronrohr Feb 09, 2007 (7:27 pm)
Replying to: wendyo (Feb 08, 2007 6:27 pm) Ha! That's funny. I feel the same way about some cars. I'm attracted to them because they're so cute but I often feel like it would be better to enjoy just looking at other people's rather than buying one myself. I think the Ford Ranger pickup is the cutest and I love researching them but I really have no use for a truck. But I enjoyed helping my friend buy one. He even let me drive it!
#94 of 97 Re: Patriot Info [slingshot80] by sturm_ruger Feb 13, 2007 (1:38 pm)
Replying to: slingshot80 (Sep 05, 2006 3:14 pm) "I'm looking for an inexpensive vehicle with a manual 4 wheel drive low gear with average mileage and decent reliability. Not sure this exists."   Jeep Liberty Sport 4X4, 3.7L V6, 6-Speed Manual Trans, decently equipped at $22,875 before options or freight, EPA 18 mpg city/22 hwy. I'm holding out for the redesigned (Cherokee-ized) '08 model...

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