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Re: Patriot [farout]
by frostyy
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Sep 23, 2006 (7:07 am)
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Replying to: farout (Sep 02, 2006 8:05 am)
The Patriot starts production Oct.9th and will be in dealerships in November according to the latest information I have seen on the Web.
The Patriot will be marketed towards people who want an economical 4 cylinder vehicle with a maximum tow capacity well below the 5000 lbs capacity of the 6 cylinder Liberty. While the Patriot has an 'old school' square Jeep look, the Compass is for those individuals who want something more stylish, modern and 'rally car' inspired.
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Re: Towing Class III [shado4]
by frostyy
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Sep 24, 2006 (11:20 am)
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Replying to: shado4 (May 30, 2006 8:31 am)
The Patriot has a maximum towing capacity of 2000 lbs, providing the vehicle is equipped with the available trailer tow prep group option; otherwise the towing capacity is 1000 lbs.
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- #83 of 97
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Re: Towing Class III [frostyy]
by farout
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Oct 02, 2006 (2:06 pm)
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Replying to: frostyy (Sep 24, 2006 11:20 am)
frostyy: We have been looking at travel trailers, and even with our CRD Liberty it's only rated at 5,000 lbs. The only camping trailer that the Patriot might be able to tow would be a very very small popup camper. That's IF one is made that small.
Towing should not be something a person would buy this Patriot for.
Farout
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Re: Towing Class III [farout]
by frostyy
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Oct 04, 2006 (11:58 am)
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Replying to: farout (Oct 02, 2006 2:06 pm)
The 2000 lb towing capacity would be suitable for people who simply want to tow a standard flat-top trailer with a snowmobile or ATV or motorcycle/small boat or perhaps a small tent trailer and so on....The Patriot could handle this with no problems...
....for those who need a vehicle to tow a large camper or large boat...the Liberty or G.C./Commander would be the way to go....
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Re: Patriot Info [slingshot80]
by theronrohr
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Oct 25, 2006 (9:07 pm)
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Replying to: slingshot80 (Sep 05, 2006 3:14 pm)
I read that the low range on the Patriot is actually a super-low mode on the CVT transmission rather than a seperate group of cogs. That's why the manual doesn't come with it. It sounds like a neat idea - just make that infinitely variable ratio transmission go a little lower than normal driving would demand.
An inexpensive, not too low mileage manual with low range would be the outgoing jeep wrangler 4cyl model. I don't think the new one has a 4 cyl because its quite a bit heavier.
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Re: Patriot Info [theronrohr]
by theronrohr
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Oct 25, 2006 (9:11 pm)
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Replying to: theronrohr (Oct 25, 2006 9:07 pm)
By the way does anybody know what kind of engine braking you get with a CVT? (Isn't that the whole point of low range - to coast down steep hills without using the brakes.)
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Re: Patriot [frostyy]
by frostyy
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Oct 26, 2006 (9:23 am)
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Replying to: frostyy (Sep 23, 2006 7:07 am)
Update: patriot production now set to start Dec. 11 and go on sale early 2007...
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Re: Patriot Info [theronrohr]
by skierx420
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Nov 08, 2006 (8:28 am)
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Replying to: theronrohr (Oct 25, 2006 9:11 pm)
Engine braking on the CVT is similar to a manual. Not quite as pronounced as a manual because of the your physically preparing for the feeling after you let the clutch out when you downshift on steep terain in a manual transmission SUV. As I have driven both the Compass and the Caliber I expect the Patriot engine braking will be very good, just not quite as good as the Low Range mode will not let you operate past a certain ratio. I am certain its engine braking will be much better than my 1989 Ramcharger I use for offroading with its 727 Automatic with its non lockup torque converter. I hope this helps.
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