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#41 of 97 Re: hm [jkinzel] by rsholland Apr 17, 2006 (4:46 am)
Replying to: jkinzel (Apr 16, 2006 7:48 pm) A diesel will be sold in other markets.   Bob Replies to this message: gljvd (Apr 17, 2006 7:21 pm) jkinzel (Apr 17, 2006 8:36 pm)
#42 of 97 World Engine by claudius753 Apr 17, 2006 (10:14 am)
The world engine is not an engine but rather a group of engines. Daimler Chrysler, Mitsubishi, and Hyundai created a spin-off company that would design a new family of 4 cylinder engines, and produce them but only for sale to the 3 companies. This new company is called GEMA or Global Engine Manufacturing Alliance.   They ended up with a 1.8, 2.0, and 2.4 liter engine, that each company can alter a bit to better distinguish the attributes they want in the engine, such as VVT tuning. The Dodge Caliber makes use of all 3 engines, while the Patriot is using only the 2.4. The 1.8 that Dodge uses creates an impressive 148 horsepower.
#43 of 97 Re: hm [rsholland] by gljvd Apr 17, 2006 (7:21 pm)
Replying to: rsholland (Apr 17, 2006 4:46 am) yea that doesn't help me here with gas at 3$ a gallon and rising though.   Would love to have seen a diesel engine for this here in the states and with the changes next year to diesel they should be putting rushing ot put out diesel here. It would sell like mad
#44 of 97 Re: hm [rsholland] by jkinzel Apr 17, 2006 (8:36 pm)
Replying to: rsholland (Apr 17, 2006 4:46 am) Thnaks Bob and claudius753. It is truly pathetic that we in the US have legislated our selves into a position that does not allow us to take advantage of the more fuel efficient diesels every other country can use. Maybe in 2008 a new batch of diesels will appear.   Thanks again for the information
#45 of 97 un by gljvd Apr 18, 2006 (9:12 pm)
is the spare tire under the cargo area or under the suv itself ?
#46 of 97 Sun Roof? by stumpf2000 Apr 28, 2006 (2:04 pm)
Anyone know if it will have a sun roof? I have an 03 GC laredo and love it, but would not mind something new and easier on gas... Will I be trading down? I hate not having a warrenty. I cant wait to test drive! Replies to this message: shado4 (Apr 29, 2006 5:24 am)
#47 of 97 Re: Sun Roof? [stumpf2000] by shado4 Apr 29, 2006 (5:24 am)
Replying to: stumpf2000 (Apr 28, 2006 2:04 pm) Yes, according to preliminary specs the Patriot Limited will be available with a power sunroof.
#48 of 97 Patirot or ? Rabbit ? by what2choose Apr 29, 2006 (7:16 am)
I really like the Patriot and am considering making it my #1 choice for a new car. I'll need a new car in June... but could probably hold off a couple months (bumming rides from co-workers, borrowing family members' cars...).   What's bugging me is that the other primary interest is the 07 VW Rabbit. Is that a crazy comparison? I know the Patriot is pitched as a CUV and the Rabbit/Golf a little hatchback; but is the size/power/mpg really much different?   If I got a Patriot, I'd probably just get a 2WD Limited (AT). I know that's not very faithful to Jeep's core... but I really spend 95% of my time on city streets and carry more groceries than rock-climbing gear.   ...of course - I'm also slightly interested in an 07 Elantra... but that is definitely a different vehicle all-together. Replies to this message: claudius753 (May 03, 2006 5:01 pm)
#49 of 97 l by gljvd Apr 29, 2006 (4:54 pm)
The jeep would weigh alot more than the rabbit and thus get alot worse MPG .   I would see the jeep getting in the 18-24 range with the 2.4l engine (only choice) Though i believe the jeep would have much more room than the rabit for storing stuff and for the passengers esp with the seat that you can push back.   Aside from that getting the 2wd is kind of a waste on a jeep . You should really get the awd option to help you out in rough weather .
#50 of 97 Re: Missing Specs [twain] by clarkkent Apr 29, 2006 (6:58 pm)
Replying to: twain (Apr 07, 2006 7:41 pm) I don't know what you guys are talking about! The Patriot is bigger than the 84 thru 2002 Cherokee! It has about 83 (YES 83)feet of cargo space! That is more than the Honda CRV, Hummer2, Ford Escape AND Ford Explorer! Is that big enough for you!? And the only reason the CRV has 70 feet is it's all in the high roof line. Speaking of the CRV, The sheet metal in the CRV is thinner than the metal tap I used to measure it!!. It about as strong as an alum. beer can!   The Patriot it about 1 to 2 inches larger than the 84/2002 Cherokee in width, length and height and wheelbase!   Sorry about the columns. It's harder than heck to make them here.   Take a look       84/02 Cherokee-------Patriot WB 101.4----------------103.4 L 166.9----------------173.6 H 63.8-----------------64.4 W 67.7-----------------69.1 HeadRoomF 41----------------41.0 LegRoomF 41----------------40.6 HeadRback 40.4--------------39.6 legroomB 37.2--------------39.6   Sure looks like what the Liberty should have been all along. It looks very much like my 91 Cherokee and is almost the exact same size or larger almost everywhere!   So how does one say it's so small?   It's actually the perfect size!   It's not a small SUV. It's a true Cherokee!   The 2L diesel will come. It's going to Europe first, but it will be here. They are making the Patriot with the diesel 2L. We just don't get it here yet.   My only concern with the Patriot is the smaller 2.5L engine. 170 hp. Will that be enough? My 91 Cherokee and 98 Wranger have the 4L. The 4L has enough power. I had a Wrangler and Cherokee witht the older 2.5 and it just didn't have enough power. It was find up to 70 mph but after that it had very little. Replies to this message: clarkkent (Apr 30, 2006 4:12 am) pegacorn (Apr 30, 2006 7:53 am)

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