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Jeep Patriot: Styling Impressions

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Re: Jeep Patriot [Sylvia] by navigator89
Aug 18, 2005 (11:31 am)
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Replying to: Sylvia (Aug 17, 2005 7:33 pm)

That's all nice that Jeep is planning to bring some off-roader and name it after a missile, but me and a lot of others would like it much more if Jeep built the Gladiator or Rescue concepts.
 
If not those, then I at least want Jeep to use the Ram/Dakota platforms to spawn at least one truck with that "Trail Rated" badge.
 
In any case I don't see where the Patriot fits in Jeep's lineup. Is it a four door Wrangler, or a Liberty replacement, or where does it's size put it??
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Re: Jeep Patriot [navigator89] by gbradlee
Aug 19, 2005 (6:39 am)
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Replying to: navigator89 (Aug 18, 2005 11:31 am)

Judging by the conceptual drawing it looks like a reincarnated Cherokee. As a long time Cherokee owner I applaud this. Liberty is too small, Grand Cherokee too cushy, Commander is an oversized Range Rover wannabe. I agree its unclear where in the line-up it will fit. Will it be a scaled down version of the Commander? Maybe they'll have the on-road family (Liberty & Grand Cherokee) and Off-road family (Commander & Patriot).
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Jeep Patriot @ Frankfurt Auto Show by navigator89
Sep 13, 2005 (12:02 pm)
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Here's the Jeep Patriot. I admit I was a bit confused as to where this vehicle fits in the Jeep lineup, but apparently it will be below the Liberty.
 
I like the styling. It looks like a mix of Commander and Liberty, which yields one handsome looking SUV. I wish Ithey had interior pictures.
 
And it looks like we'll get this SUV middle of next year as a production model. Now if only Jeep would build the Gladiator.....
 
http://www.edmunds.com/news/autoshow/articles/107049/page006.html?tid=edmunds.e.autoshow..- leftnav.7.*
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Dimensions of the Patriot? by indianrefining
Oct 19, 2005 (9:36 am)
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I haven't been able to find a breakdown on the dimensions of the Patriot compared to those of the Liberty. Is it going to be appreciably smaller?
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What is Jeep doing ??? Specs by knickerbocker
Oct 26, 2005 (6:33 am)
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Replying to: indianrefining (Oct 19, 2005 9:36 am)

From what I've read(specs are available) it is pretty much the same size as a ford escape.
A couple inches longer than the original cherokee, but an inch narrower.
 
It is supposedly not as big as the liberty, but that may be misleading... the liberty includes the exterior mounted spare tire in its overall length... so it appears to be
longer.... it is a bit narrower than the liberty as well.
 
Personally I feel Jeep blew it when they discontinued rather than redesigned the cherokee. Obviously people miss the boxy cherokee because we are seeing similar styling in the commander and now the patriot.
 
If they didn't want to redesign the cherokee they should have incorporated its design in the grand cherokee redesign. The grand cherokee is ugly , and the commander just doesn't look right; the dimensions are all off; reminds me of an old isuzu trooper.
 
It is a shame that jeep has wasted their best recent design(patriot) on a compact suv platform; midsize would have been the way to go... midsize with an optional desiel here in the states....
 
I'm holding my breath for the upcoming 4 door wrangler(which is out in spy shots) in part based on the jeep rescue concept... Supposedly the 4 door will be a different platform( wider as well as longer) than the regular wrangler.
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Jeep Patriot concept.... Does Jeep have a clue ??? by knickerbocker
Oct 26, 2005 (8:42 am)
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Is Jeep having an identity crisis ???
 
First they discontinue the Cherokee sport; a design that remained popular and iconic for almost 18 years... Replaced it with the Liberty; the SUV version of a VW beetle... all it needs is the flowers in the dash !!!
Then they butchered the redesign on the Grand cherokee... a look that only a mother could love !!!
 
So now Jeep has realized it has aleinated its male, outdoorsy market...Also realized that many of us really liked our boxy Cherokee Sports...
 
So they throw together a supersized version... Anyone think the Commander looks like an old Isuzu Trooper; Just doesn't look right; dimensions are off !
 
Now comes the Patriot !!! Hey looks great... maybe Jeep is getting their act together... NOT... Check out the specs... The Patriot is almost exactly the same size as a Ford Escape... Compact SUV... So Jeep has blown their best design in years on a compact SUV. And Yes I know the Cherokee Sport was sort of compact... but it was also sort of midsize... it really was a unique, capable, and ruggedly handsome vehicle.
 
So what is next... Well the Jeep Rescue concept has blown us all away... but it will likely never go into production... But don't dispair... The talk (and spy shots) indicated Jeep will be making a 4 door wrangler built in part on the Rescue design. Supposively it will be wider and (obviously) longer than the two door version which is also due for a redesign at the same time... Check out the spy shot... they are out there !!
 
Many of us die hard jeep lovers are holding our breath Jeep will work through their identity issues and get back to the basics of making rugged SUVs that are worthy of the name Jeep !
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Re: Jeep Patriot concept.... Does Jeep have a clue ??? [knickerbocker] by indianrefining
Oct 27, 2005 (5:55 am)
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Replying to: knickerbocker (Oct 26, 2005 8:42 am)

"To each his own", as they say. I think that the Patriot looks a lot "Jeepier" than my Liberty, like what I've seen regarding the dimensions, and look forward to seeing what the mileage figures will be. If they put it into production late next Summer, I'm going to be kicking myself for trading my '03 Grand Cherokee for the '05 Liberty with the diesel (to save money on fuel, no less. Talk about shooting myself in the foot!)
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Re: Jeep Patriot concept.... Does Jeep have a clue ??? [indianrefining] by knickerbocker
Oct 27, 2005 (6:53 am)
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Replying to: indianrefining (Oct 27, 2005 5:55 am)

Don't get me wrong... from the pics I've seen I love the Patriot design... What I don't like is the size... Here are some specs:
 
Patriot: 173.7 Length, 69.1 width
Ford Escape: 173 Length, 70.1 Width
Jeep Liberty: 175 Length, 71.6 width
 
Don't be fooled... this is a compact SUV !!!
 
Jeep already has the wrangler... it doesn't need another small off roader. What it needs is a good go anywhere midsize suv. As a avid kayaker who regularly drove around with as many as 4-5 kayaks on my car, or 17 ft sea kayaks I loved the functional aspect of the cherokee. Great FWD, low roof line, great utility. That is what jeep is missing... Maybe us outdoor crunchy types are not jeep's main market, but I know a lot of kayakers and mountain bikers who cried the day they discontinued the Cherokee. The liberty is too tall and round to carry a lot of boats. The Grand Cherokee besides being UGLY, has poor rear window visibilty and a useless roof rack system (about a foot shorter than the previous rack)
Jeep has obviously left the "U" (utility) out of their recent SUV designs !!!
 
I agree with you about the gas mileage... Personally I would love to see more diesels. I'm hoping the 4 door wrangler will be available with one;
 
Too bad Jeep didn't use more of the Patriot's design in the Grand Cherokee. I think a design like that would have blown away any other SUV on the road and kept all jeep lovers everywhere very happy !
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PATRIOT-RIGHT VEHICLE -RIGHT TIME by jeepnut
Nov 06, 2005 (7:16 am)
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I think most people would like to have a 4x4 that gets above 25mpg. I have owned 6 cherokees and 20 other jeeps.
If gas is going to be $3 plus a gallon I want better mileage. The pics of the Patriot show better ground clearence than a Liberty, I hope thats true.
 Second Issue, just got back from Sema2005, Hummer H3 has to be best stock 4x4 ever made and this is from a guy who has driven only Jeeps for 30 years and offroads them hard.
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China got a new Cherokee by yeeper
Nov 08, 2005 (11:23 am)
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I was in China recently and saw a few Cherokees rolling around.... and then something didn't look right: the front end was completely different on one- Headlamps similar to the Commander with more molded bumpers and edge trim. Seemed like the sheet metal was stamped slightly different on the side panels: a bit more flange.
 
Didn't get to take a picture, but it was clearly a styling update and many of the new-style ones were obviously freshly purchased. So..... Jeep-China is making new Cherokees (although only the 2.5L engine). Don't know why we can't get them (with the 4.0L, of course)
 
Also, FWIIW- In England the Liberty is badged as the Cherokee. I guess they just called it a complete redesign without fear of the outrage that us Americans would have had for desecrating our Cherokees.

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