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You are in the Sedans
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Chevrolet Cobalt, Ford Focus, Honda Civic, Hyundai Elantra, Honda Fit, Mazda MAZDA3, Toyota Corolla, Toyota Yaris, Nissan Sentra, Sedan
#1124 of 1205 Re: New Car [sandman46]
Oct 09, 2008 (10:44 am)
Some of the crash-test scores on the Accent steered my folks away from the Accent when they were shopping for a small car (they liked the Versa best of all because of the room and the substantial feel, followed by the "fun" Scion xD).
Just make sure you check out the scores and be aware.
Good luck on the car-hunt!
#1125 of 1205 Re: 2010 Mazda3 [aviboy97]
Oct 09, 2008 (10:46 am)
Great looking car (from the rear, anyway), horrible photography.
Can't we get a nice front 3/4 view? Or is this just to tease us?
#1126 of 1205 Re: 2010 Mazda3 [thegraduate]
Oct 09, 2008 (10:49 am)
It's typical Mazda tease photography. They always do this.
#1127 of 1205 Re: New Car [sandman46]
Oct 09, 2008 (1:10 pm)
Did you know... you can get a gently-used 3-Series (compact class) with all the latest safety equipment, excellent crash test scores, excellent dynamic safety, luxury items like leather and moonroof, and 35+ mpg highway for about the same real-world price as an Accent GLS or Versa S? Also I have found teenagers don't mind driving a BMW to school rather than a Hyundai (or Nissan).
Just a thought.
#1128 of 1205 Re: New Car [backy]
Oct 09, 2008 (2:06 pm)
Where can you get a "gently used" BMW 3 series for $12,000 to $15,000???
Gently used to me means 10,000-15,000 miles, and in excellent condition. I don't see any under $30,000 like that. A BMW in that price range will have close to 100,000 on it. BMW's at the mileage are most certainly not reliable, or cheap to maintain.
#1129 of 1205 Re: New Car [aviboy97]
Oct 09, 2008 (6:52 pm)
I guess it all depends on what you think "gently used" is. To me, a car in excellent condition inside and out, always well-maintained (with all records) and with all maintenance current, preferably a one-owner car (a private owner), doesn't have to have 10-15k miles on it to be considered "gently used."
I did a lot of shopping around for new and used cars over the past couple of months. What I found was that I could get a two-year-old Accent GLS in very good condition, around 20k miles, former rental, for about $11k; a two-year-old Elantra GLS in very good condition, around 30k miles, formal rental, for $12.5-13k; and a mid-sizer like a two-year-old Sonata or Mazda6i for around $13k and up, with 30-40k miles or more, mostly former rentals. OR I could get an E46 in the 2000-2003 years with from 40k-70k miles for $12k-14k. I went with the E46 option, a 2000 328Ci with premium package and 68k miles, one owner, for $12.4k. Or I could have gotten a used Elantra GLS, maybe a new Accent GLS but with the surge in popularity of small cars lately they are getting more pricey now. But I would have done without ESC, traction control, auto climate control, moonroof (on the Accent at least), power front seats with memory, leather interior/wheel, real wood trim, 10-speaker audio, telescopic wheel with audio controls, self-leveling Xenon headlamps, 193 hp I6 vs. a 4-banger, and of course the handling of a 3-Series. What I gave up was 2-3 years of factory warranty and a little fuel economy (but not as much as I expected), and of course there is a much greater chance that I'll need to replace parts on an 8-year-old car than on a 2-3 year old car. But I'll need only one oil change per year vs. 2, and I know a good mechanic that charges a lot less for BMW maintenance than my local dealer.
I can't argue with choosing something like an Elantra or Sonata or Mazda6. Personally I would not go with an Accent due to the crash safety issue the grad mentioned, and I don't like the idea paying $16k for what would be a very basic car in the Yaris--I'd rather get something like an Elantra SE or Sonata GLS for that kind of money.
#1130 of 1205 Re: 2010 Mazda3 [aviboy97]
Oct 10, 2008 (9:45 am)
The autocar preview is encouraging. They really like the new powertrains. The 2.0 is going to be sweet power/fuel economy spot - hope they offer it in the hatch.
The 2.5L looks to be very nice. It already gets 22/30 in the 6 which is better than what the 2.3L gets currently in the 3. With the 3 lighter than the 6, i'd expect hopefully 24/32. Very nice considering the 2.5L is outputting substantially more power.
Too bad the diesel doesn't appear to be coming. Better performance than the screamer in the MPS? wow.
Oct 10, 2008 (3:59 pm)
Won't buy used for them, wife wouldn't even consider it. She's always had new...always will. Girls already know how much cash $ they have and they've both decided on new. End of story...I've been outvoted!
Have already shown them the safety stuff and discussed the subject to death. All I need to do is go make the deals.
#1132 of 1205 Re: 2010 Mazda3 [socal2006]
Oct 13, 2008 (9:15 am)
Hosts - Can we get a forum to discuss the 2010 Mazda3 now that some official pictures have been released?