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How Much Profit Should A Car Dealer Make?

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Re: Profit [dtownfb] by joel0622
Jun 10, 2009 (10:55 am)
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Replying to: dtownfb (Jun 10, 2009 5:40 am)

IMO a good profit is anywhere between $1500 and $3500. The most I every personaly made on a used car deal when I sold was $7300 on a used diesel truck.
 
A guy rolled in one day with this truck wanting to sell it. He said, I will take $xxx amount of dollars for this truck right now. We said OK. What he wanted was about $7K back of average the truck was nice and at the time used Power Stroke Diesels were bringing way out of the book. The guy selling probably left $15K on the table if he would have sold it himself. I picked up the phone called a customer and told him what he could buy it for. He gave me a $5K deposit over the phone to hold it till he got there.
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Re: Profit [joel0622] by dtownfb
Jun 10, 2009 (12:00 pm)
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Replying to: joel0622 (Jun 10, 2009 10:55 am)

Thanks Joel. I'm working with a friend of mine who is a sales manager to purchase a used car. i want to be fair.
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Re: Profit [joel0622] by newcarbuyer12
Jun 10, 2009 (12:10 pm)
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Replying to: joel0622 (Jun 10, 2009 10:55 am)

What about when a new car dealer sends a car to an auction? What type of returns do they expect to see? I realize that there are many factors that can influence profit such as if the dealer paid more for the car than they wanted to in order to close the deal, etc, but what is the average expectation?
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Re: Profit [dtownfb] by jipster
Jun 10, 2009 (12:26 pm)
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Replying to: dtownfb (Jun 10, 2009 12:00 pm)

i want to be fair.
 
What's "fair" got to do with anything? Did you read the part about joel's dealership paying $7k less than book for that trade in? The customer getting $15k less than he would have with a private sale. Is that "fair"??? If the dealership was in the business of being "fair" they would have called him an idiot and offered $7,000 more for his trade in.
 
 It's business. The dealership wants you to pay the most possible for a used car. They want to pay the least possible for your trade in. You should try to pay the least possible. My experience with dealing with friends who are sales managers is that you will end up paying more. The friends definition of a "fair" profit is usually higher than a customers. But, if you are looking for a no hassle easy buying experience, and don't mind paying more, the friend method may be the way to go.
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Re: Profit [newcarbuyer12] by volvomax
Jun 10, 2009 (12:39 pm)
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Replying to: newcarbuyer12 (Jun 10, 2009 12:10 pm)

Most of the time, you send cars to the auction that you aren't going to retail anyway, so you just hope to break even or take a small hit.
Some dealers are on a strict turn program. When the inventory hits 60 or 90 days, you send it to the auction and take your loss and move on.
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Re: Profit [dtownfb] by joel0622
Jun 10, 2009 (12:45 pm)
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Replying to: dtownfb (Jun 10, 2009 12:00 pm)

You left that part out lol. I make $500 over what I have in a car on close friends and $100 over on family members.
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Re: Profit [jipster] by joel0622
Jun 10, 2009 (1:03 pm)
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Replying to: jipster (Jun 10, 2009 12:26 pm)

My experience with dealing with friends who are sales managers is that you will end up paying more.
 
You don't have very nice friends
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Re: Profit [jipster] by isellhondas
Jun 10, 2009 (2:42 pm)
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Replying to: jipster (Jun 10, 2009 12:26 pm)

They didn't make the guy an offer. The guy selling the truck told them what he would take for it and they agreed.
 
If you looked at a used car that was priced well below the market, would you tell the seller that you would be happy to pay them more?
 
Don't think so.
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Re: Profit [joel0622] by kyfdx HOST
Jun 10, 2009 (4:38 pm)
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Replying to: joel0622 (Jun 10, 2009 12:45 pm)

In my experience, those who have family members or friends in the business get the worst deals...
 
No kidding..
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Re: Profit [joel0622] by jipster
Jun 10, 2009 (4:56 pm)
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Replying to: joel0622 (Jun 10, 2009 1:03 pm)

You don't have very nice friends
 
Yeah I know... why you think I hang out here so much?
 
But, what I mean is, that while you may get a good(fair) and quick deal with a sales manager friend, you could probably do $400-$800 (or more) better haggling out a deal yourself.

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