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#318 of 1858 Re: funny [nvbanker] by chuck1959 Oct 26, 2005 (11:25 am)
Replying to: nvbanker (Oct 25, 2005 3:43 pm) That's why we have LOST 2 of the shuttles! As far as the diesels...not just Olds...had them...they were doomed from the beginning. As I understood, they were converted gasoline engines (350's?) as opposed to being built as a diesel like the current ones. Plus you had to make sure you kept up the routine maintenence religousally. IE: I had a couple of friends that had Olds diesels. One a 98 and one a Cutlass, 1979 IIRC. One friend ((98) was very lax on the oil changes and etc. The other NEVER miss an oil change evry 3,000 miles. He kept up that car very well. Guess which one blew up at 15,000 miles! Yep the "98". The Cutlass my friend sold (lost his butt). 5 years ago and it had over 100,000 miles on it. Replies to this message: jefferyg (Oct 26, 2005 6:59 pm) nvbanker (Oct 26, 2005 9:51 pm) varmint (Oct 27, 2005 9:41 am) grbeck (Oct 27, 2005 8:09 pm) nvbanker (Oct 28, 2005 11:30 am)
#319 of 1858 Re: funny [chuck1959] by jefferyg Oct 26, 2005 (6:59 pm)
Replying to: chuck1959 (Oct 26, 2005 11:25 am) in the early 80's Oldsmobile put a 307 gasoline engine in their big cars, 88 and 98. My mom had a 1984 Delta 88 with that engine in it. The engine had actually started out as a diesel, but due to the problems they encountered they manufactured new heads and used the diesel blocks to produce the 307s. It was a strong engine and came with 4bbl carb. Many of those engines are still in service today, largely because the block was built to higher specs b/c of being built as a diesel.
#320 of 1858 Re: funny [chuck1959] by nvbanker Oct 26, 2005 (9:51 pm)
Replying to: chuck1959 (Oct 26, 2005 11:25 am) We lost 2 of em? Dang! Replies to this message: varmint (Oct 27, 2005 9:41 am)
#321 of 1858 Re: funny [nvbanker] by varmint Oct 27, 2005 (9:41 am)
Replying to: nvbanker (Oct 26, 2005 9:51 pm) 3 if you count the one behind the couch.
#322 of 1858 Re: funny [chuck1959] by grbeck Oct 27, 2005 (8:09 pm)
Replying to: chuck1959 (Oct 26, 2005 11:25 am) Didn't the Cutlass use a smaller diesel that had most of the bugs worked out by that time? Replies to this message: nvbanker (Oct 28, 2005 11:30 am)
#323 of 1858 NEW FUSION by 2zmax Oct 28, 2005 (5:46 am)
Coming to work this morning, I've noticed a brand new silver Fusion on the lot. It was a SEL V6 with black leather interior. Wow, it does look sharp - Good Job Ford, the car looks much better than the competition. And if it drives like Mazda 6, it will be a Hit. I only have one gripe - what is up with a puny 220 HP , 200 Lb./Foot. Duratec? I mean Cm'on Ford! If it had a 250 HP, 250 Lb/Foot 3.5 V6, I would buy one TODAY! But I can't see myself driving it, because every time I'd want to "play" a bit, it will disappoint me. I think that it needs, if not a class leading HP, at least a 250, to make it a Camcord Killer. But in any case - it is gorgeous car - Thumbs way UP ! I can’t wait to go test drive it this weekend and see how it handles. According to our X-Plan price, I can get a fully loaded SEL for $22,746 - Not bad at all Replies to this message: nitromax (Oct 28, 2005 7:02 am) jefferyg (Oct 28, 2005 8:26 pm) nvbanker (Oct 29, 2005 2:10 pm) and 12 more... grbeck (Oct 29, 2005 9:29 pm)
#324 of 1858 HP race out of control!!! by stickguy Oct 28, 2005 (6:19 am)
news flash! 2z, it does drive much like a 6, so you shouldn't be disappointed. I just get a kick that people are so worked up because a mid-size family sedan, that is perfectly adaquate with a 4 cyl., "only" has 220 HP! How will we survive! just kidding with you. I have my own opinions on the amount of power that most people really need/use vs. what they think they need/use. 15 years ago, cars this size maybe had 130HP. But, if you really want to see heated discussions about power, try the Lexus IS threads, especially the 250. Replies to this message: 2zmax (Oct 28, 2005 6:43 am)
#325 of 1858 Re: HP race out of control!!! [stickguy] by 2zmax Oct 28, 2005 (6:43 am)
Replying to: stickguy (Oct 28, 2005 6:19 am) Well, I haven't driven one yet, so I can't really say much about it. But I've driven the competition, and I can say that out of the Camcordniss I prefer the 3.5 VQ, Altima, because it has lot's more power, and it feels quicker. Now if Fusion had that much power, and the rest of its’ goodies - it Would be PERFECT. But I guess nothing is perfect. Oh well, maybe when Ford puts 3.5 into the Fusion in 07, it will really be a best selling mid size sedan. ( I hope)
#326 of 1858 Re: NEW FUSION [2zmax] by nitromax Oct 28, 2005 (7:02 am)
Replying to: 2zmax (Oct 28, 2005 5:46 am) But I can't see myself driving it, because every time I'd want to "play" a bit, it will disappoint me. I think that it needs, if not a class leading HP, at least a 250, to make it a Camcord Killer. But in any case - it is gorgeous car - Thumbs way UP ! Camcord didn't get popular because of their HP. They got popular because of thier reliability. So dumping a bigger engine in it will make it better? Were you around in the 80's when the HP wars between Mustangs and Iroc Z-28s were flirting with 210 HP using 8 cyl engines? I'm guessing no. A V6 that puts out 220 HP/200 TQ is more than enough for a car. Replies to this message: jefferyg (Oct 28, 2005 8:26 pm) nvbanker (Oct 29, 2005 2:10 pm) chuck1959 (Oct 30, 2005 8:23 am) and 11 more... grbeck (Oct 29, 2005 9:29 pm)
#327 of 1858 V6 by stickguy Oct 28, 2005 (7:33 am)
and not to beat a dead horse, but the majority of CamCordImas are actually sold as 4 cyl. Something like 75-80%? Always remember that most of the regulars the post here are really outliers in the automotive spectrum. We want 300hp AWD 6 speed manual quasie-rally cars for carting the kids around, but most people buy 4 cyl AT Camry LE or Accord LX. I do recall that the Altima suffers from the bane of the FWD V6- torque steer. Too much power though the front end can be detrimental to balance and control. Replies to this message: john_324 (Oct 28, 2005 9:00 am)

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