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Re: note to above poster [varmint] by grbeck
Oct 19, 2005 (6:57 pm)

Replying to: varmint (Oct 19, 2005 10:13 am)

A red Fairmont sedan does look like a fire chief's car. A few Fairmont Futuras have popped up for sale at the various Carlisle events....as I said, it's not a bad-looking car for the time.
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Fusion/Milan variants (grbeck) by hpmctorque
Oct 19, 2005 (7:46 pm)
"Maybe Ford needs a Fusion Futura (although Ford has apparently lost rights to the Futura name) or a Milan M-7." Ah, I like that idea!
 
We once had a Mercury Zephyr two door sedan in the family, purchased used as an extra vehicle. It had been well maintained and driven with reasonable care, and that continued while it was in our fleet. It was equipped with the 200 c.i. I-6 and automatic, the most popular drivetrain for the Fairmont/Zephyr. It was a decent car for its day, and by the time it died it had provided 155,000 miles of low maintenance service.
 
One car magazine, I think Car & Driver, described the Ford Fairmont as "the poor man's Volvo." While the Volvo was much sturdier structurally, it was also significantly higher maintenance.
 
I'd love to see Ford put a sedan body on the new Mustang platform, badged it as a Mercury. Priced from the low to high twenties, such a car might succeed better than the Lincoln LS.
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I had a Fairmont too..... by nvbanker
Oct 19, 2005 (8:23 pm)
A Red Station Wagon! Talk about a fire wagon.....but I have no complaints. It was tinny and low tech, but it served our young family well. Sold it to a retired FBI agent. Said he felt right at home in it. He loved it, but wrecked it, fixed it, and wrecked it again. I believe it went to the pic a part after that.
 
One thing I marveled at - that car had ice cold air, a real asset in Vegas, and never in all the 6 years I owned it, required any charge or service on the air at all. Actually, it never required any service or repairs at all, that I can recall...... I sold it because the mileage was racking up, and the wife wanted a minivan....
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Re: Fusion/Milan variants (grbeck) [hpmctorque] by jefferyg
Oct 19, 2005 (8:37 pm)

Replying to: hpmctorque (Oct 19, 2005 7:46 pm)

I'd love to see Ford put a sedan body on the new Mustang platform, badged it as a Mercury. Priced from the low to high twenties, such a car might succeed better than the Lincoln LS.
 
It could definitely give the new Dodge Charger a run for the money. I still can't believe that Dodge doesn't offer that car in a 2-door version. How many of you guys out there who ever watched the Dukes of Hazzard (and will still admit it) could imagine the General Lee with four doors?
 
Mercury definitely needs to do something to project it's image. The only reason I bought the Mountaineer was because I could get all the features of an Eddie Bauer Explorer for $1000 less.
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Re: Fusion/Milan variants (grbeck) [jefferyg] by nvbanker
Oct 19, 2005 (9:04 pm)

Replying to: jefferyg (Oct 19, 2005 8:37 pm)

I've been buying Mountaineers since 97 when they first debuted. They had more style than the Explorer I had, more options, and a certain refinement that said, Country Club version..... Since then, I've had 4 of em, and see no reason to quit now. I feel they're much better looking now, than the Explorer is.
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rumors link Ford to Nissan by mariner7
Oct 20, 2005 (3:44 am)

Replying to: jefferyg (Oct 19, 2005 8:37 pm)

"Padilla's comments come as word of possible alliance talks flow through the industry's chatty, global rumor mill. Most often, such gossip seems to link Ford with Nissan, the Japanese turnaround company. For his part, Nissan CEO Carlos Ghosn insisted such talk is just that."
 
Personally I don't believe the rumors. But it all depends on Ghosn. He bailed out Nissan, which by many measures (profitability, resale values) has outdone even Toyota and Honda. So if he decides to join Ford, Nissan and Renault may have no choice but to go along.
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Fusion/Fairmont Connection by varmint
Oct 20, 2005 (6:08 am)
I never found the Fairmont to be especially good-looking, but it did have good proportions. If you drew a car like a 10 year-old would... put a red crayon in your fist and move it up, over, up, over, down, over, and down... and you'd have my old Fairmont. Very much the classic sedan shape.
 
And I think that's probably true of the Fusion. While it does have more detail/ornamentation than the Fairmont, it's best feature is probably its proportion.
 
As for the General Lee. Technically... that car had no doors. I doubt Dodge could get away with that!
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Re: rumors link Ford to Nissan [mariner7] by nitromax
Oct 20, 2005 (6:09 am)

Replying to: mariner7 (Oct 20, 2005 3:44 am)

That's one way to get the "new" Ford 3.5 liter engine finished....merge with Nissan and use theirs.
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Re: Fusion/Fairmont Connection [varmint] by jefferyg
Oct 20, 2005 (6:37 am)

Replying to: varmint (Oct 20, 2005 6:08 am)

Of course it had doors, they were welded shut - except for a picture I saw once of the Duke boys standing behind an open driver's door.
 
And believe me, here in McComb, MS, the place I fondly refer to as the Redneck Capitol of the World, a car with doors welded shut and really loud exhaust would be a smashing success. BTW, how did a guy from MA come up with a screen name like varmint. If I hadn't checked your profile, I'd have thought you were one of my neighbors.
 
Seriously though, I do believe one thing that would help Ford/Mercury would be to release a new car that is all muscle. The new Mustang is getting there, but I'm thinking more along the lines of a Grand Torino in red and white. Merc could have done themselves a big favor by putting the engine out of the SVT Ligtning Pickup into the Marauder.
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News item by pf_flyer HOST
Oct 20, 2005 (7:02 am)
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/051020/earns_ford.html?.v=8
 
Ford Motor Co. Reports Third-Quarter Loss of $284 Million on Weak North American Results
 
DEARBORN, Mich. (AP) -- Ford Motor Co. reported a third-quarter loss of $284 million on Thursday, dragged down more than $1 billion in losses at its North American division, and said it is developing a restructuring plan that will include "significant" U.S. plant closings and staff reductions.

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