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Re: note to above poster [john_324] by nvbanker
Oct 18, 2005 (7:20 pm)

Replying to: john_324 (Oct 18, 2005 9:31 am)

"So then is the Ford panther platform officially the oldest platform used in the automotive business today?"
 
The Panther of today is decended from the 1979 platform, yes. But the one being stamped out today is fully updated, stiffened about 100 times now, and is better x 10 than the original, yet, has essentially the same design as the original. I don't see any shame in riding on a platform that was "originally" designed 27 years ago - it's not like it was MADE 27 years ago......
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Re: chuck [grbeck] by nvbanker
Oct 18, 2005 (7:29 pm)

Replying to: grbeck (Oct 18, 2005 6:17 pm)

Image wise, the 300 was a blockbuster, with the genius HEMI engine, but doesn't the Ford 500 now outsell the 300, grbeck?
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Re: chuck [nvbanker] by grbeck
Oct 18, 2005 (7:34 pm)

Replying to: nvbanker (Oct 18, 2005 7:29 pm)

I believe it does, but with a lower price point (the most expensive Five Hundred I've seen - the Limited AWD - stickers for about $32,000, which is still below the 300C version) and a bigger dealer network, shouldn't it?
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I don't know.... by nvbanker
Oct 18, 2005 (7:37 pm)
Chrysler dumped a couple million of the 2.7L 300s into rental fleets so far - Ford has put very few, comparitively, 500s into fleets thus far, leaving the Taurus to do that for now. It's hard to guage it unless we could take fleet sales out.
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Re: I don't know.... [nvbanker] by grbeck
Oct 18, 2005 (7:42 pm)

Replying to: nvbanker (Oct 18, 2005 7:37 pm)

I hope that Ford continues to resist the urge to dump the Five Hundred into fleets. The car still needs the 3.5 V-6 and a facelift.
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Agreed. by nvbanker
Oct 18, 2005 (7:51 pm)
Would you notice it in rental fleets though? It is the most invisible car on the road today! As opposed to the 300c, it's a miracle they've sold at all, although, in my test drive, I didn't notice the power issue much. I just don't care for the styling.
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Look Downunder by dodgeyaussie
Oct 19, 2005 (9:29 am)
I haven't read the whole thread... but i have a few frustrations to vent with Ford US....
 
1. 90% of your cars a boring.... Only Mustang, GT, F150 and the new Fusion pique any interest...
 
2. The 500 is way underpowered... get a decent powerplant already.
 
3. Have a look at Ford Australia. The Falcon especially the FPV versions(www.fpv.com.au), Fairlane should be seriously considered for adaption to the US market. Also the Territory should be considered as a replacement for the Freestyle... while they are very similar in styling... the Territory is much better in so many ways it's not funny. Power being the main advantage.203hp for Freestyle... 250 for Territory...
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Re: note to above poster [grbeck] by nippononly
Oct 19, 2005 (9:48 am)

Replying to: grbeck (Oct 18, 2005 6:11 pm)

So then, what is the Focus (3- and 5-doors, wagon, and 4-door sedan)?
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Re: note to above poster [grbeck] by varmint
Oct 19, 2005 (10:13 am)

Replying to: grbeck (Oct 18, 2005 6:11 pm)

When I was a music student in college, three of us had Fairmont derivatives. I had a 78 or 79 Fairmont in red. Looked like the Fire Chief's car. Another drove a Futura, which we dubbed the "fastback". The third had a Zephyr. The Futura driver and I used to ogle the Zephyr's bumper bullets and quarter panel vents.
 
We used to joke that we'd weld the three together and make a Fairmont Limo out of them.
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Re: note to above poster [nippononly] by grbeck
Oct 19, 2005 (6:54 pm)

Replying to: nippononly (Oct 19, 2005 9:48 am)

The Focus is the successor to the Pinto and the Escort. It's slotted below the compact class.
 
The successor to the Fairmont would be the Fusion, which is available in only one body style - a four-door sedan.
 
Maybe Ford needs a Fusion Futura (although Ford has apparently lost rights to the Futura name) or a Milan M-7.

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