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Re: chuck [nippononly] by nvbanker
Oct 18, 2005 (3:44 pm)

Replying to: nippononly (Oct 18, 2005 3:42 pm)

" And now of course, the latest thing for the rappers, basketball stars, and nouveau riche under 40 is apparently the Mercedes G500."
 
Proving, it never had anything to do with the actual product - it's all about how expensive it can be.
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Re: chuck [nvbanker] by nippononly
Oct 18, 2005 (3:48 pm)

Replying to: nvbanker (Oct 18, 2005 3:44 pm)

Besides, I looked it up, and the Escalade is outselling the Navigator this year.
 
Price may have been the thing, but really, for the younger set it often comes down to how much bling it has. How much does it show off the wealth? The G and especially the Escalade do this well, while the Navigator is more conservative.
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Demographics by varmint
Oct 18, 2005 (3:50 pm)
Lexus is the car of trophy wives. I think it says something about that in the manual.
 
No, the Zephyr isn't an old person's car, but it is being sold under an older person's marque.
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Re: chuck [nvbanker] by chuck1959
Oct 18, 2005 (3:54 pm)

Replying to: nvbanker (Oct 18, 2005 3:42 pm)

I have to admit you make a good point. But a 70+ owner will not care to much about that. Also IMO the LS never really hit it's target audience. Unless Lincoln does something drastic ie: an exciting model, that attracts both the younger and older crowd....I know what a takk order....they could be in trouble sooner.
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Re: Demographics [varmint] by chuck1959
Oct 18, 2005 (3:56 pm)

Replying to: varmint (Oct 18, 2005 3:50 pm)

No, the Zephyr isn't an old person's car, but it is being sold under an older person's marque.
 
See your statement is exactally what's wrong with Lincoln's image...older persons marque. That's going to be very hard to change.
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Re: chuck [nippononly] by chuck1959
Oct 18, 2005 (4:15 pm)

Replying to: nippononly (Oct 18, 2005 3:48 pm)

Besides, I looked it up, and the Escalade is outselling the Navigator this year.
 
That is something I never understood, because I think the Escalade is BUTT UGLY!! Lincoln needs to pay attention and build a Navigator that's like the Escalade EXT!!
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Re: note to above poster [grbeck] by ehaase
Oct 18, 2005 (4:18 pm)

Replying to: grbeck (Oct 17, 2005 7:23 pm)

"The Fox platform debuted for the 1979 model year as the Ford Mustang and Mercury Capri"
 
Actually the Fox platform debuted for the 1978 model year as Ford Fairmont and Mercury Zephyr. Derivatives include the 1979 Mustang/Capri, 1980 Thunderbird/Cougar XR7 (redesigned in 1983 and restyled in 1987, but still on the Fox platform), 1981 Granada/Cougar, 1982 Continental, 1983 small LTD/Cougar, and 1984 Lincoln Mark VII. Ford used to be quite good at getting a lot of derivatives off a platform, and based upon what I have read about plans for the CD3 (Fusion/Milan/Zephyr) and D2 (Five Hundred/Freestyle/Montego), Ford will develop many derivatives of these platforms.
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Re: note to above poster [ehaase] by grbeck
Oct 18, 2005 (6:11 pm)

Replying to: ehaase (Oct 18, 2005 4:18 pm)

Oops! You're correct...I completely forgot about the 1978 Ford Fairmont and Mercury Zephyr.
 
I always thought that the Fairmont Futura and Zephyr Z-7 were good-looking cars for their time. The size was just right - not too big, not too small - and the interior made efficient use of the available space.
 
Kind of sad to think that in 1978, someone buying a compact Ford had the choice of two- and four-door sedans, a very nice four-door wagon, and a highly styled (for the time) coupe. Now we have to settle for one four-door sedan - the Fusion.
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Re: note to above poster [john_324] by grbeck
Oct 18, 2005 (6:14 pm)

Replying to: john_324 (Oct 18, 2005 9:31 am)

john_324: So then is the Ford panther platform officially the oldest platform used in the automotive business today?
 
It may very well be the oldest platform in use, although it has been heavily modified from its original form.
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Re: chuck [chuck1959] by grbeck
Oct 18, 2005 (6:17 pm)

Replying to: chuck1959 (Oct 18, 2005 3:54 pm)

chuck1959: Unless Lincoln does something drastic ie: an exciting model, that attracts both the younger and older crowd....I know what a takk order....they could be in trouble sooner.
 
Lincoln is already in deep trouble. The LS is going away, and the Zephyr, while not a bad car, does not strike me as something that will lure away buyers from the Acura TSX and TL and cheaper Lexus models. Lincoln needs a blockbuster on the order of the Chrysler 300C.

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