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Replying to: moronix (Feb 22, 2007 9:28 am) It is possible because dealers are buying them from other dealers. Everyday there are dealers looking for more. Dealers are finding dealers that will sell them anywhere from $10k to $15k to $20k over MSRP. Then the dealer buys it and sells it for as much over that that they can get. So even dealers are paying well over MSRP buying them from other dealers. I can find them for $15k over if I have a customer wanting one. Some dealers buy as many as they can because they feel they can sell them and still make $5k over what they had to pay. One dealer sellds them at $25k over firm! They sold over 40 so far. They buy them from $10k - $20k over from other dealers. It depends on the market area you are in. Some areas have higher demand than other areas. If I had people lining up willing to pay $20k over I would buy as many as I could at $15k over and get them one. Not a problem. |
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Do some research, look for a small dealer in an out of the way place that has one on hand. He might NOT have a big enough market for the car to command a big premium. Be Nice. Mark. |
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Replying to: akirby (Feb 22, 2007 10:28 am) |
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Replying to: moronix (Feb 22, 2007 3:22 pm) |
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Replying to: moronix (Feb 22, 2007 3:33 pm) If consumers weren't paying $25K over MSRP then the dealers wouldn't be buying them for $15K over MSRP to resell them. |
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Replying to: moronix (Feb 22, 2007 3:22 pm) If you don't like the price you don't buy it! Plain and simple! The same as you refuse to pay the premium and CHOOSE to not buy it! If the dealers where ripping you off then you would be buying one even though you don't want to! As far as the cars having 8-10 miles on them...DUH! Over 95% of all new vehicles have 8 - 10 miles on them at the time they are delivered to the dealer! Mine came right off the truck with 8 miles on it! No one else drove it. I was there when it came it! Some vehicles will have only 4-6 miles, but over 95% will have 8-10 miles when they are dropped off from the manufacturer! Now there are SOME of these Shelby's that dealers did buy from people and those would be used because they have been titled. Transferring from dealer to another does not constitute a used vehicle. Only after it has been titled it becomes used. The funny thing is, those people that did sell theirs to a dealer were those GREAT LOYAL CUSTOMERS of the other dealer that the dealer did sell their Shelby to that GOOD customer for only MSRP and that so called GOOD CUSTOMER that just HAD to have one turned right around and sold it to another dealer to make a fast $10k - $20k!!! Some GOOD CUSTOMER, huh??? So the few dealers that did sell their Shelby's for only MSRP ended up getting burned by their own VERY GOOD CUSTOMERS! They ripped off the dealer! WOW! And I would be willing to bet that YOU, moronix would be the type of customer to do the same thing! Lets face it, if you don't think the car is worth the extra premium then you probably wouldn't keep it if you could turn around and pocket the extra $10k - $20k profit from it! If that wasn't so then you wouldn't have any problem with paying a premium if you REALLY wanted one! As far as corning the market, give me a break! A handful of dealers snatching up a few extra Shelby's by paying a premium for them is hardly going to even put a dent into what the market will demand for these! The ONLY way that could ever happen is you had several dealers buy up ALL the Shelby's where they were the ONLY dealers where you could get one from! That will never happen. If it were only that easy! I'd buy all 9,000 and offer $25k over to insure I got them all and make you pay $100k to get one! And I'd sell a lot of them for that if I were the only source to get one from. But I would end up with a lot in storage as well and risk losing a lot of money waiting for 40 years to pass by before they were really worth a lot! I only WISH your idiotic theory were true! You ujust keep missing the point. If EVERYONE REFUSED TO PAY A PREMIUM THEN THERE WOULD BE NO PREMIUM! That being the case then there is no way for the dealer to be able to rip anyone off! It is the CONSUMERS that forcing the prices to go up! No one else! It's the CONSUMERS! Without any willing consumers buying them, the prices go down! But the CONSUMERS WANT THEM BAD ENOUGH TO PAY ANY PRICE TO GET ONE! Hello!!! |
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Successfully signed up and placed a down payment on a 2008 GT500 yesterday on my birthday. I happen to be number one in line with this particular dealer. Question now is color and options. I'm inclined toward red because I have never owned a red car, but it no doubt will be a police magnet. If the Shaker 1000 adds weight and takes up trunk space, I will pass. Wife wants the navigation system, so I may opt for that. I sure hope the 2008 provides some wheel options and perhaps a different exhaust system with a little more growl to it. As an undergrad, I owned a 1968 GT 500, gold with AT. I was the second owner, who let his fiance (current wife) drive it only once. Twelve mpg wasn't too bad considering the price of gasoline back in 1974. The original owner told me the only car that could beat it was a 427 vette. I never found out, but would enjoy smoking a goat or two on First Street in San Jose. Engagement and moving into government subsidized housing motivated me to sell it at the time. Now, 30+ years later it looks like I may recapture some of those wild oats. 
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Replying to: rheller (Feb 22, 2007 8:14 pm)
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Replying to: bri66 (Feb 22, 2007 10:28 pm)
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Replying to: moronix (Feb 22, 2007 3:33 pm) Huh? Who said DEALERS were the only ones who could do that? What's to keep some rich guy with millions in cash on hand from buying up 40 or 50 Shelby's himself to 'corner the market' (btw - just how does one 'corner the market' by buying 20-40 Shelby's when Ford will build roughly 8000 for this model year?). It's called 'speculation'. These guys (whether private individuals or dealers) are SPECULATING that the market for this car will STAY red-hot and thus justify the higher price. It's all the market. These dealers have also taken a large RISK because I'm sure they didn't buy them for MSRP from the original dealers so they've got their ass waving in the breeze if they find that they're still sitting on unsold inventory 3-4-5 months from now. The market system works. If you don't like the price, don't buy the car. Would you somehow feel better if Ford had set the MSRP at $100k and then was offering $20k rebates? Would buyers then be getting a 'steal' if they bought Shelby's for $75k?
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