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Ford Shelby Cobra GT500, Convertible
#362 of 556 Re: ShelbyDude: Can u help? [bri66]
Feb 22, 2007 (6:21 am)
I have to assume the 3M tape would hold up OK. I assume if Cervinis has been using them on all their kits then it must hold up OK.
The one thing I like is that with the tape you should be able to remove them later if you wanted to put everything back to normal.
I think if I do it I would order an extra set just to have incase one did come loose and lost on the road somewhere.
I checked with the parts department on the side scoops Ford adds to the CS model. Those do have two holes in the side to mount onto the car. So those would require drilling holes which I don't want to do.
BTW, if I wasn't lucky enough to of gotten the Shelby I was going to go with getting a GT and having Cervinis do their Eleanor kit on it. I think that is a hot looking car! My wife has a 2005 Mustang V6. I have been trying to get her to let me trade her out of that and get a GT with the Cervinis Eleanor kit.
#363 of 556 Re: lucky me [moronix]
Feb 22, 2007 (8:58 am)
"Dealers are given the exclusive monopoly to sell this car and decide to stick it to the customers for whatever they can get. If it were a normal supply and demand situation then Ford would make as many Shelby Mustangs as they could sell. That's standard business practice."
It sounds as though your beef then is with Ford for not making enough Shelbys to meet demand.
Prices SHOULD always be determined by the market IMO. ALWAYS. If demand is low and supply is high, then the dealers (and Ford) would be stupid to insist on MSRP. You mentioned F150 trucks where supply often exceeds (by a good margin) the demand......yet I'm sure that if YOU were in the market for an F150 you wouldn't insist on paying MSRP just because that's the suggested price.
Why then insist on MSRP when demand far exceeds supply? Personally, I don't have ANY problem with dealer's getting as much as they can. It's called free enterprise; if I don't like the price, then I don't buy. But whining about how 'unfair' it is is simply pointless.
Where I DO have a problem is when the dealer's tell folks that the demand will CONTINUE to outstrip supply 6, 8, 12 months from now so there's no point in waiting. In reality the dealers are simply HOPING the demand continues strong since that just means more money in their pocket.
Ford needs to sell lots of cars. There is NO point in Ford NOT MAKING more high $$$ cars IF they feel the market will support it. If their analysis indicated that the market would only support 16k, 18k, or 20k Shelby Mustangs over a 2 year span, that's all they'll make. But if dealers are STILL able to get 10k over MSRP a year or so after production began, for what POSSIBLE reason would Ford halt production?
#364 of 556 Re: lucky me [shelbydude]
Feb 22, 2007 (10:28 am)
As I already said we will just have to agree to disagree. I just took a look at Ebay and noticed one dealer advertising (Hartsville, Oh) he has 9 Shelybs in stock. How is that possible? Just curious.
#365 of 556 Re: lucky me [moronix]
Feb 22, 2007 (11:28 am)
Probably Shelby GTs, not GT500s.
#366 of 556 Re: Help!! [shelbydude]
Feb 22, 2007 (12:24 pm)
Thanks shelbydude for the tips. I contacted the dealer today and they provided me with the vehicle order confirmation which included my name and the description of the vehicle. It listed it as a T88 with an order code of 820A. All of the options I ordered were on it. For those interested the DVD Navigation System has an order code of 58X. The cover has a code of 971. The total MSRP was $45940. Now it is just a waiting game.....
If Ford makes more Shelby's than the 18,000 they have indicated, I will be very disapointed. Most people spending the extra money are banking on that number. If the car had an MSRP of $50,930 I would not have even hestitated. I think you will see the 2008's jump to that price.
#367 of 556 Re: lucky me [moronix]
Feb 22, 2007 (12:56 pm)
There is a dealer in WA that had over 40.
It is possible because dealers are buying them from other dealers. Everyday there are dealers looking for more.
Dealers are finding dealers that will sell them anywhere from $10k to $15k to $20k over MSRP. Then the dealer buys it and sells it for as much over that that they can get.
So even dealers are paying well over MSRP buying them from other dealers.
I can find them for $15k over if I have a customer wanting one. Some dealers buy as many as they can because they feel they can sell them and still make $5k over what they had to pay.
One dealer sellds them at $25k over firm! They sold over 40 so far. They buy them from $10k - $20k over from other dealers.
It depends on the market area you are in. Some areas have higher demand than other areas. If I had people lining up willing to pay $20k over I would buy as many as I could at $15k over and get them one. Not a problem.
#368 of 556 If you want a good deal
Feb 22, 2007 (4:03 pm)
Do some research, look for a small dealer in an out of the way place that has one on hand. He might NOT have a big enough market for the car to command a big premium.
#369 of 556 Re: lucky me [akirby]
Feb 22, 2007 (4:22 pm)
Nope! They are Shelby GT500s. He had 11 listed when I first checked. YOu can check for yourself on E-bay. He is just another dealer who is ripping off the customers. I suspect he got someone else to purchase them and he took them over. Some have like 8-10 miles and are actually not new.(He's not the original owner) The minimum bids are running around 59-60K.
#370 of 556 Re: lucky me [moronix]
Feb 22, 2007 (4:33 pm)
Well there goes your free enterprise and supply/demand theory. Some dealers are cornering the market by grabbing them up from other dealers. You must admit that helps to make the price stay high. That is not supply/demand economics. It's called cornering the market and using your position as a dealer to do it. Unethical in my opinion. But as Ken Lay proved, todays ethics are not what I grew up with.
#371 of 556 Re: lucky me [moronix]
Feb 22, 2007 (6:01 pm)
You don't seem to understand supply and demand or free enterprise. This is still all driven by customer demand and willingness to pay exorbitant amounts over MSRP. When the Ford GT first came out people were paying $225K for a vehicle with a $160K MSRP. By the time the last ones rolled off the line they were selling for MSRP after sitting on the floor for a few weeks. Why? Because all the people who paid the high premiums were gone and none of the remaining buyers were willing to pay through the nose. So the price came down.
If consumers weren't paying $25K over MSRP then the dealers wouldn't be buying them for $15K over MSRP to resell them.