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#313 of 547 Re: Purchase Agreement Recommendations [rheller] by akirby Feb 16, 2007 (1:36 pm)
Replying to: rheller (Feb 16, 2007 1:01 pm) You're really at the mercy of the dealer, regardless of what you have in writing. The dealer is not required to sell you a vehicle. If they don't fulfill the sales agreement then you can sue them for damages. But you can't force them to sell you the vehicle.
#314 of 547 Sales Agreement by rheller Feb 16, 2007 (2:13 pm)
Sue them for damages? Hmm...I don't follow. What damages would that be other than denying me the pleasure of owning the car? Seems to me the contract could be written to obligate them to sell me the vehicle at the agreed upon price.
#315 of 547 Re: reality check [pony_pirate] by moronix Feb 16, 2007 (2:29 pm)
Replying to: pony_pirate (Feb 15, 2007 4:32 pm) I saw the comparison somewhere but can't remember where. Seems like they did the job for a little over $5k and slightly outperformed the Shelby. Maybe a internet search will turn it up. Just found this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iq06eUNlyzI&mode=related&search= It's not what I was looking for though. I think now it was a special I saw on TV... maybe the Speed channel. Replies to this message: shelbydude (Feb 16, 2007 6:12 pm) pony_pirate (Feb 16, 2007 9:51 pm)
#316 of 547 Re: Purchase Agreement Recommendations [rheller] by shelbydude Feb 16, 2007 (5:37 pm)
Replying to: rheller (Feb 16, 2007 1:01 pm) How much over MSRP is the dealer agreeing to sell it for?   Does the dealer have the allocation to get the car?   Is this on a 2007 or a 2008?
#317 of 547 Re: reality check [moronix] by shelbydude Feb 16, 2007 (6:12 pm)
Replying to: moronix (Feb 16, 2007 2:29 pm) There are a lot of things that can be done to increase the power and performance on any car. Especially modifying one to out perform one that is stock from the factory.   If you also noticed that was an older clip. The guy in the video said both cars had the 4.6L which is incorrect. He said the Shelby had 475 HP which is incorrect. Originally it was said to have 475 HP but it actually has 500 HP.   He said they did nothing on the brakes and suspension. That is incorrect. The Shelby does have different brakes and suspension over the GT Mustang.   Also notice they used the convertible instead of the coupe? There is a difference in the weight distribution on the coupe VS the convertible and a difference in the sway link bars between the two.   Basically that was a video trying to promote the Roush over the Shelby. But he did say the Shelby is faster on the straight away but on the track the Roush is supposedly better. Well how many people are going to be using their Shelby to race on the track?   The Shelby GT500 suspension is shared with the 2005 Championship winning FR500C Grand-Am Cup Mustang.   80 percent of the underpinnings on the FR500C race car can be found on the Shelby GT500, But they did "nothing" to the suspension, huh? Replies to this message: pony_pirate (Feb 16, 2007 9:51 pm)
#318 of 547 Re: reality check [shelbydude] by pony_pirate Feb 16, 2007 (9:51 pm)
Replying to: shelbydude (Feb 16, 2007 6:12 pm) Absolutely correct. That Brit twit is sputtering utter nonsense. The GT500 has bigger brakes (and tires) and a completely different suspension than stock. Contrary to what that Euro idiot says, the GT500 sits lower than stock. In fact, during that same video, here not shown in its entirety, the dope drives a V6 Pony and says straight-faced, right into the camera, that he's driving a GT -- poor fool doesn't even know which car he's driving. (Sorry, Anglo-jerk, slight difference between the Pony and GT: like different engines, transmission, exhaust, suspension, brakes, wheels, and tires.) That video, btw, is all about the Vette C6Z06, which that Brit snot, has to admit, in spite of himself, is the ultimate car orgasm.   I had the hots real bad for the GT500, after falling in love with and buying an '05 Mustang GT Premium. Trouble was dealers, those lowly, slimey, greasy critters: they wanted to pick my pockets. I ain't gonna fork up, no way, not in this world, a markup of $10k for a Ford, when for the same money, in the neighborhood of $54k, I can get a Vette which will leave that front-end heavy Ford behemouth in the dust. The GT500's super-charged cast-iron engine throws the weight distribution way off, towards the front, and adds pounds to the car, making it a candidate for Slim Fast.   Trouble with the Roush's is that they're overdressed, vulgar, like so many of the Mustang GT's I see on the road. Eighteen inch chrome wheels, hood scoops, and God knows what only make the car ludicrous and hype the already-aggressive look, especially the front end (imo, of course).
#319 of 547 Observations From a Newbie by rheller Feb 17, 2007 (5:57 am)
As a newcomer to this forum I would lake to take a moment and share a few observations. I somewhat expected to read posts specifically addressing the GT500 which would be helpful and cogent. Instead, I find myself scrolling through numerous posts about how great the vette is and disgruntled posts belittling the Shelby by those who have no intention of ever owning one, for whatever reasons, the most likely being they simply can't afford it. If I wanted to read how terrific the vette is, which I personally find butt ugly, I would visit a vette forum. In the meantime, if someone knows of another more focused forum for the GT500, please let me know. Thank you for the consideration. Replies to this message: pony_pirate (Feb 17, 2007 12:21 pm) claires (Feb 18, 2007 11:00 pm) shelbydude (Feb 20, 2007 9:11 pm) and 2 more...
#320 of 547 Re: Observations From a Newbie [rheller] by pony_pirate Feb 17, 2007 (12:21 pm)
Replying to: rheller (Feb 17, 2007 5:57 am) Cars aren't a religion, one doesn't exclude the other.   Here's the Car and Driver road test of C6 Vette vs.GT500:   http://www.caranddriver.com/comparisons/11150/heavy-pedal.html   The whole appeal of the GT500 was that as a Mustang it wasn't going to be that expensive. Before the car went into production, press releases put the figure at $40k or below. But when dealers starting adding ridiculous markups, bringing the car in the lower to mid 50's range, consumers, myself included, had to start thinking, "What else can I get for that kind of money? What's the competition?" Answer: the Vette.
#322 of 547 How many Shelby GT500's left? by shelbydude Feb 17, 2007 (6:49 pm)
Here is a heads up for anyone thinking about getting one of these or thinking about waiting to see if prices drop.   Ford said they were going to build between 8k - 9k Shelby GT500 Mustangs for 2007. Then between 8k - 9k for 2008.   Well there are 3,762 dealers in the US. I just did a search to see how many of these are out there showing up in dealers inventory.   As of today, Feb. 17th, 2007 there is a grand total of 271 coupes and 163 convertibles showing in inventory. This is out of 3,762 dealers nationwide. Most of these are likely already sold units. Some may not actually be there yet and could be in transit on the way from the factory. Many of these have order codes that would be ordered as sold units. Some are ordered as stock units. In any case, it appears that most of the production has been sold already since they will probably stop 2007 production sometime in May.   Just to give you an idea on this, Ford is only building 6,000 of the Shelby GT's. These just started production in January of 2007. As of today there are well over 1,400 of these showing in dealers inventory. Some are already in stock and a lot of these are on the way.   But over 1,400 of a 6,000 production VS 434 of a 8,000 - 9,000 production. About a month or so ago, there were a LOT more of these that showed in inventory. So if you are thinking about getting one you might want to act on it soon because it looks like they are selling out quick.   Some of the better buys I've seen were on ebay. I have seen them selling in the $57k - $58k range which is only about $12k - $13k over MSRP.   Another idea to try and is to go to ebay, click on the completed listings link and look at the ones that didn't sell. Click on those links and click on the ask seller a question link. Send them an offer on their Shelby if they still have. All they can do is say no, but what if they say yes??? Now I doubt they will take MSRP or $5k over, but they might take between $10k - $15k over which is a lot better than $20k, $25k or $30k over!   NOTE: I have nothing to gain by this and I am NOT selling any of these. All of our 2007 allocation is SOLD OUT! So this is just merely a heads up and FYI in case you are still pondering what to do as far as getting one while you still can. Use this to your advantage if you can.

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