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#831 of 905 Re: 2008 KIA Optima [mikemartin]
by mickeyrom
Jun 21, 2009 (6:49 am)
I think that is a question better answered by a dealer.I assume that you don't have the receipts.
Mike,no offense,but why would you buy a car that hasn't been properly maintained.
As far as I know,the only maintenance that would affect the warranty would be the oil changes and the tranny fluid changes.That is only if those two units were to fail.Surely not rotating the tires(just an example) would affect your warranty.
If it were me,I would do a complete service on this car, and thereafter faithfully follow the recommended service while keeping all the receipts.
#832 of 905 Re: I like my Optima [dkh1967]
by epekarik
Jun 21, 2009 (8:35 am)
I find that it shifts up a bit too early, especially when I slowly accelerate up hill. Usually I put it into manual shift and don't shift up till I get to 3500 or 4000 rpm. I might loose a bit of economy, but much easier on the valves.
#833 of 905 Re: 2008 KIA Optima [mickeyrom]
by mikemartin
Jun 21, 2009 (11:16 am)
mickey, thanks for the reply.
I don't know that the prior owner failed to maintain the car per Kia's recommended service schedule.
What I'm saying is that I'd like to know that they did, and have the records to prove it, in case there's a problem later, and Kia brings the issue up.
#834 of 905 Re: 2008 KIA Optima [mikemartin]
by backy
Jun 22, 2009 (3:06 pm)
There's not that many options here:
1) You are buying the car from a Kia dealer. You get them to state, in writing, that the car is covered by the remainder of the 5/60k factory warranty. After that, it's up to you to maintain the car according to the manufacturer's recommended service schedule.
2) The owner had the car serviced at a Kia or other service center that maintains computer records. You get a printout of those records and verify the car was maintained properly.
3) The owner has hardcopy records of all servicing, showing the car was maintained properly.
4) The owner makes a written, sworn (before a notary public) statement that he/she performed all service according to the manufacturer's service schedule (not sure that will satisfy Kia if there's a dispute, but it's better than nothing).
5) Carfax shows all servicing was done (not real likely, as I've found Carfax unreliable in showing ALL servicing records).
Or,
6) You can't verify that the car was serviced according to the manufacturer's schedule, hence buying the car is a crapshoot, in multiple ways.
#835 of 905 Re: 2008 KIA Optima [backy]
by mikemartin
Jun 22, 2009 (5:10 pm)
Thanks Backy.
I'm finding out that warranty issues are an often overlooked technicality by a lot of used car buyers, not just Kia buyers, and if one is not careful, lack of due diligence will come back to bite one in the rear with an expensive and uncovered repair.
#836 of 905 2007 Owner Reviews-- valid or driveby shooting?
by csandste
Aug 25, 2009 (4:10 pm)
Was surprised to see the overall evaluation of the 07 Optima to be under eight, especially since it was quite high the last time I checked. Note the large block of extremely low rated comments, things I never see on the forum
http://www.edmunds.com/kia/optima/2007/consumerreview.html
--- is there some kind of Toyota salesman out there getting even or does the 07 really suck (earlier and later models don't seem to reflect this), and last time I checked
http://www.truedelta.com
had owners experience with the Optima at the top end.
#837 of 905 Re: 2007 Owner Reviews-- valid or driveby shooting? [csandste]
by backy
Aug 25, 2009 (5:41 pm)
All the really negative comments are puzzling. Seems to be many cars with multiple transmission failures, head gasket failures, starter failures, etc. But some comments are really strange. Like the one about the owner who had lots of problems starting at 42k miles, so he sold it, and "a month later" the new owner said he'd had lots of "insanely expensive problems" with the car. Which means either that new owner drove over 18k miles on the car in very short time period (so the warranty was used up), or Kia didn't honor the warranty for these problems.
Then there's the one where "Hyundai" refused to honor the warranty because they said service was not performed at a dealership. Uh, isn't this a KIA??
Also consider CR's reliability data has the '07 Optima rated "Much above average" (red dot) as of April 2009, which is about the timeframe of many of the negative comments (that issue was published around March 1, 2009). All of the engine and transmission categories are "much above average" also. The timing is... interesting.
I particularly like "Bev"''s multiple reviews. First she writes a balanced review, some negative but some positive marks. Then someone else posts a review with all 1's. Bev comes back and posts another review a few days after her first, this time with all 1's.
It's also interesting how some engine and transmission problems can affect a car's comfort, and interior and exterior design--those are 1's too.
#838 of 905 Re: 2007 Owner Reviews-- valid or driveby shooting? [csandste]
by mickeyrom
Aug 25, 2009 (5:58 pm)
Either I have been incredibly lucky,or those are posts created by the NRC. I love my KIA and it now has over 30K miles on it.You might remember my problems with the passenger seat air bags,but once that annoying problem was solved,the Optima has been nothing short of perfection.I'll let you know if that ever changes,but all I've done so far is change the oil,rotate tires and one time change the tranny fluid.
#839 of 905 Re: 2007 Owner Reviews-- valid or driveby shooting? [backy]
by mickeyrom
Aug 25, 2009 (6:09 pm)
Hi Backy.Sure hope those posts are hoaxes.I love my KIA,but I have to admit reading that crap does have some effect,in a negative way.I hope I don't get paranoid.
#840 of 905 Re: 2007 Owner Reviews-- valid or driveby shooting? [mickeyrom]
by csandste
Aug 26, 2009 (1:21 pm)
"It's also interesting how some engine and transmission problems can affect a car's comfort, and interior and exterior design--those are 1's too."
If you hated everything about it, why were you so stupid as to buy it?