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#76 of 906 Re: Kia Optima now on sale. [azera25]
Apr 28, 2006 (9:57 am)
I saw one on the streets (Houston, Texas) just yesterday. IMO another winner for Kia. It had dealer plates on it. It went past me on the freeway, I only got a glimpse but saw the Kia emblem. I thought wow a Kia I haven't seen! Looks a lot better than the previous model. I am so glad Kia got rid of there funky front ends on all there cars! BTW I have 2 Rio Cincos....2002 and a 2004. Trouble free cars!
#77 of 906 Re: 2007 Kia Optima [jtz]
Apr 28, 2006 (10:09 am)
God I hope not, Amanti sales are already slow as molasses! Too bad too because the Hyundia Azera will kick it's you know what! I had one as a rental a few months ago. IMO a great car although a bit underpowered. Kia: LISTEN HERE put the Azera engine in it! I am NOT making this up, but a few people asked me if it's a Jag!
#78 of 906 Re: Compare pics [jcm68]
Apr 28, 2006 (10:11 am)
GM needs to look at these pictures. THIS is how you make the SAME car look different!!
#79 of 906 Update on the new KIA 2.7L V6
May 04, 2006 (3:42 pm)
I found an owner's section on KIA's website, and never standing on protocols (such as not really being an actual owner), boldly registered for entry to the KIA on-line shop manual. Some interesting stuff. This new engine is definitely NOT the previous 2.7L V6. Nor is it the new Hyundai lambda series V6 as used in 3.3L and 3.8L displacements in the Sonata and Azera, respectively. But, though it does appear to be closely related in most respects, there are differences. KIA's site designates this engine with the Greek letter mu. Unlike the lambda series, the mu relies on a composite, toothed belt as the primary drive from the crankshaft to the overhead camshafts (though the progression of power from intake camshaft to the exhaust camshaft on each cylinder head uses a short chain and autotensioner). Unlike the lambda engines, the mu uses a spin-on conventional oil filter mounted vertically (open end up) at the front of the car near the oil pan. Looks to be as easy to access as the horizontally mounted oil filter on the older Hyundai 2.7L V6 engine, without the obligatory mess when loosened. Of more interest is diagramatic and text confirmation that this new KIA engine DOES use CVVT variable valve timing AND a variable air induction system. (I wondered where Hyundai came up with the 15 additional horsepower in this new motor from the older 2.7L V6.) The valves, themselves, are actuated via solid valve lifters. There is no adjustment to KIA's arrangement (put away your screwdriver for the lash adjustment and closed end wrench for the lock nut). The adjustment procedure consists of first measuring and noting the lash (cold, thankfully) for all 24 valves. The next step is to cry if any are out of range because the "adjustment" procedure requires completely removing the intake manifold's plenum chamber, the cam covers, the intake-to-exhaust camshaft chains, autotensioners, CVVT actuators, and camshafts (which requires removing the main timing belt after removing the engine's front covers), followed by removing the measured out of tolerance lifters (solid cylinders that are available in 40 sizes from KIA dealership parts departments). Once the replacement lifters are installed, the four camshafts, their CVVT actuators, chains, and autotensioners can be reinstalled, and the cam covers re-installed along with replacement cam cover gaskets and the plenum chamber along with a new gasket, too. Then, the engine's timing belt can be re-installed, or, if necessary, replaced, and finally the engine's front covers can be reinstalled. This adventure is not going to be a light afternoon romp during half-time for do-it-yourselfers, nor is it going to be inexpensive at the dealership level. Hopefully the valvetrain is engineered to hold its adjustment to at least the point at which the main timing belt has to be replaced, but that may be wishful thinking. (I found no information in the online shop manual how often a valve adjustment must be performed.) I don't imagine a set of those precision machined valve lifters are apt to be cheap, either. If KIA follows common industry practice, abandon hope of buying by the piece.
For those wishing to peruse KIA's online shop manual, here's the url:
The new model KIA Optima is designated as "MG" when accessing the online shop manual.
#80 of 906 Re: Update on the new KIA 2.7L V6 [ray_h1]
May 04, 2006 (4:22 pm)
Older 2.7L V6: Delta engine
New 2.7L V6: Mu engine
#82 of 906 Re: Nicer Interior Than Sonata's [w9cw]
May 05, 2006 (8:17 pm)
I,too, live in a midwest state. There are 3 Kia dealerships in a 75 mile radius of me(90 minute drive, or less).
One is now with Hyundai, and yes, they tend to have less models on the lot than Hyundai.
The other is on a lot with Hyundai, Toyota, and Chevy, and have a lot less space for their vehicles.
The 3rd is across the street from a Honda, Nissan, Mazda dealership(they just closed their Suzuki dealership of 10+ years), same owner, but it is really sad.
The building is big enough to have 4 vehicles in it, 3 desks, and a "garage"(service center) where one car can fit in it at a time, and one mechanic, and one sales person(On a Saturday!).
When i went to the Honda dealership, after looking to test drive a Rio5(lady said'maybe next visit you can test drive one!?), they had 6 sales persons vying to help me out!
There were maybe 75 cars on the Kia lot.
There used to be one on a Nissan, Buick, GMC, Kia lot, but that place folded a few years ago.
Another Kia dealership closed a year ago.... they were on a lot with VW, BMW, and Volvo. Shared a building with VW.
They had a lot of models, but when I went there, they seemed to try to push the more pricey VW's on you.
They tended not to push the Kia's, thus, they did not do well.
What ya gonna do?
#83 of 906 different models of vehicles?
May 05, 2006 (11:18 pm)
This says a new platform will bring a sedan(the 07 elantra?) and 2 other vehicles, a 5 and 3 door car(s)....on another thread on future vehicles(see the Kia Coupe, and has another sketch of 5 door that looks a lot like a modified Spectra5, and info)says Kia will have the 5 and 3 doors(for Europe).
hard to say what will happen with HyunKia.
As for are Optima and Sonata on different platforms? Dunno.
All I know is that the old XG350 and Sonata(last generation) shared the same platform, yet one was larger, more HP,etc.
Take Care/Not Offense.
#84 of 906 Optional rear spoiler?
May 10, 2006 (8:55 am)
Has anyone ever seen the car with the rear spoiler? I want to see what it looks like.
#85 of 906 Please post your 2007 Optima mileage figures!
May 19, 2006 (11:09 am)
Hey there new Optima owners!
I'm very curious to see what the gas mileage is like for the new 4-cylinder engine in the Optima.
I hope that it this engine has been engineered to not only run well, but to get decent mileage too....a common KIA bug-a-boo.