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Re: Technical 2006.5 Optima Question [mickeyrom]
by bargugl
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Mar 14, 2008 (7:08 am)
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Replying to: mickeyrom (Mar 12, 2008 5:59 am)
Reading through the shop manual, the fuel tank air filter will not be technically challenging, only time consuming. You can actually see that filter if you look under the car behind the rear wheel. There is a small opening where the filler pipe runs up to the gas cap. In order to get to it to replace it, you will need to take the wheel guard panel off (about an 1/8" thick black plastic housing). The panel is held in by six screws and two bolts which means you can take it off with a screwdriver and a wrench. However, you may still need to jack up the rear of the car and remove the rear wheel to have enough room. Once you get to it, you just need to take the old filter off and put the new one on. You don't have to run the engine or mess around with gas to replace it.(There seems to be three screws holding it in place and you need to disconnect a tube.) All you need is a wrench, screwdriver, maybe a jack and tire iron, and an hour to kill to do the entire process. Since the cost of the filter is $12, if the dealer charges an arm and a leg to do it, I would just as soon do it myself. The fuel filter is much more involved, though, so that's why I am very curious on what the break down would be for the dealer to only replace that.
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Re: Technical 2006.5 Optima Question [bargugl]
by mickeyrom
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Mar 14, 2008 (7:31 am)
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Replying to: bargugl (Mar 14, 2008 7:08 am)
According to at least one service manager,there is no need to replace the fuel filter and the same for the air filter unless you are in the habit of overfilling your tank.I'm going to take him at his word.He also said there are only three kinds of maintenance that could affect your warranty,should you fail to do it.
1.Oil and filter
2.Trans fluid
3.Radiator flush.
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Re: Technical 2006.5 Optima Question [mickeyrom]
by bargugl
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Mar 14, 2008 (7:32 am)
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Replying to: mickeyrom (Mar 14, 2008 6:56 am)
Fuel Filters are generally only a problem when they start to clog and generally they are not going to cause serious damage as engine symptoms would be pretty obvious. The fuel tank air filter is actually there for evaporative emission control from my understanding so I can't imagine it could cause any mechanical trouble from not being replaced. Most of time where I have heard Kia denying warranty service it is because people have not followed the schedule for the oil and transmission changes, as well as timing belt for those with the V6. I guess it all depends on how good your service department and dealer are. I wonder if some service departments will even look it up on the filters if you just call and say I want my 30,000 mile service done or whatever. I think some places just lube everything up, do some checks, change the oil and send you on your way.
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Re: Technical 2006.5 Optima Question [bargugl]
by mickeyrom
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Mar 14, 2008 (7:42 am)
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Replying to: bargugl (Mar 14, 2008 7:32 am)
The service manager I spoke to told me that they dont even bother stocking that fuel air filter.That is how rare it is to replace it.He does however recommend flush the trans and Rad. at 30K
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I was just gonna say...
by iluvmysephia1
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Mar 15, 2008 (12:58 am)
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I wouldn't skip the radiator flush at 30,000 miles. Absolutely vital maintenance for the Long-Haul ahead, gentlemen.
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Re: I was just gonna say... [iluvmysephia1]
by csandste
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Mar 16, 2008 (8:05 am)
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Mar 15, 2008 12:58 am)
That's what I'm thinking, 30K for coolant and transmission fluid. Kind of splits the 18K and 105K transmission change but seems a lot more reasonable. From memory, I think Edmunds service schedule calls it out for this car as well. I assume this means dealer because of the specialized trans. fluid. Anyone have experience with independent trans. fluid changes?
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Re: I was just gonna say... [csandste]
by mickeyrom
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Mar 16, 2008 (8:19 am)
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Replying to: csandste (Mar 16, 2008 8:05 am)
Dont mess with non KIA tranny fluid.That would void your warranty. Its not overly expensive every 30K miles.
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Re: I was just gonna say... [mickeyrom]
by csandste
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Mar 16, 2008 (8:27 am)
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Replying to: mickeyrom (Mar 16, 2008 8:19 am)
Hyundai-Kia-and Mitsu. all have the same standards. I simply wouldn't trust an independent shop unless I was very very sure they weren't just running some kind of a mass fluid flush through the system.
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Re: I was just gonna say... [csandste]
by mickeyrom
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Mar 16, 2008 (8:35 am)
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Replying to: csandste (Mar 16, 2008 8:27 am)
If the fluid is IDENTICAL it would be OK I guess,but the owners manual is very specific on that point.
BTW, why not just use a KIA dealer,none in your area?
I'm probably going to get a flush,not just a partial fluid replacement.Every dealer seems to be different.
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Re: I was just gonna say... [mickeyrom]
by csandste
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Mar 17, 2008 (5:01 pm)
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Replying to: mickeyrom (Mar 16, 2008 8:35 am)
Since I dislike the Hyundai dealer, I'll probably take it to the Kia. I just like to have some options in case I have a bad experience.
FWIW-- Pennzoil has fluid that (supposedly) meets multiple specs.
http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:gEUZfn-ProoJ:www.pzlqs.com/Tech/Pdsheet/Dome- sticMarketing/Gear%26Transmission/Pdf/MultiVehicleAutomaticTransmissionFluid.pdf- +kia+transmission+fluid&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=us&client=firefox-a
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